What if Hitler got captured ?

[roekeloos[NL]]

yes thats why germany lost the war :P Wuhaha

[Gen'l Knight]

The Russian had (maybe still) a hard time believing Hitler was actually dead per something I saw on the Discovery, Military Channel, somewhere...

The Doubting Thomas Syndrome..

[Stefan F]

Originally Posted by Gen'l Knight

The Russian had (maybe still) a hard time believing Hitler was actually dead per something I saw on the Discovery, Military Channel, somewhere...

The Doubting Thomas Syndrome..

Stalin had a hard time believing it , till his death , the KGB and what it was called during the war , knew it for sure pretty much the day they found the bunker, the allies on the other hand werent informed for a long time after.

[jumjum]

Originally Posted by Gen'l Knight

The Russian had (maybe still) a hard time believing Hitler was actually dead per something I saw on the Discovery, Military Channel, somewhere...

The Doubting Thomas Syndrome..

Originally Posted by Stefan F

Stalin had a hard time believing it , till his death , the KGB and what it was called during the war , knew it for sure pretty much the day they found the bunker, the allies on the other hand werent informed for a long time after.

Stefan F. that's pretty much right, although Stalin most certainly did know Hitler was dead. He used the pretense of Hitler's survival to suggest Western collusion in spiriting Hitler away in an attempt to damage the USSR, etc. The usual Stalin game of deceit upon deceit for reasons just as convoluted as his lies.

Almost as soon as the Russians had control of the bunker they began an extensive search for Hitler, conducted primarily by members of the NKVD, which was the Soviet secret police, and SMERSH, the military intelligence unit. They discovered what they were fairly sure was Hitler's (and Eva Braun's) body in the Chancellery garden on May 4th. The Soviets found a significantly burned body, but ultimately recovered most of the skull (with a small-caliber bullet wound) and the jaw.

Within a matter of days the Soviets had thoroughly interrogated Hitler's dentist, Fritz Echtmann, and his dental assistant, Kaethe Hausermann. Colonel Vasili Gorbushin and interpreter Yelena Rzhevskaya showed each the jaws which contained the teeth and bridgework, and each identified the remains as Hitler's. Both separately and identically sketched out Hitler's dental pattern, which included quite extensive and distinctive bridge work called a "hanging bridge", for author Cornelius Ryan while he was researching The Last Battle. Apparently enough of Hitler's dental records were recovered that additional confirmation was made. All this checks with the skull and jaws Moscow still has.

The rest of Hitler's body was moved and reburied several times in and around Magdeburg. In 1970 the remains were finally completely cremated, and the ashes flushed into the Magdeburg sewer system.

Part of Stalin's apparent initial uncertainty over Hitler's death may have been genuine. During the autopsy of the Hitler remains on May 8 by Soviet pathologists in Moscow, the doctors found evidence of cyanide and listed this as the cause of death. (I am uncertain about whether they had the skull or if they did, how they treated the bullet wound). But Stalin's recovery teams had said the Hitler skull had a bullet hole in the skull, and must obviously have died by gunshot. Perhaps Stalin was concerned there were parts of two bodies, and one or both were plants, etc. But certainly Stalin knew Hitler was dead within a matter of weeks, long before he stopped saying Hitler was still alive in Argentina.

All this was a very closely held secret even within the USSR, and even Zhukov was not informed until 1965.

[Stefan F]

they found the skull later on ( dont know by how much ) while digging the same ground again

[Kubador]

Somewhere on discovery was shown the probable Hitlers skull in Moscows archives (you could call it that way). Either way if he would be captured it wouldn't change his fait much since it was sealed once Germans lost at Kursk.

IMHO better question is " What if that guy instead of politician became a painter". (His paintings were boooring but decent)

[FlyGuy45]

Originally Posted by Kubador

IMHO better question is " What if that guy instead of politician became a painter". (His paintings were boooring but decent)

Reminds me of my lessons of this week:
"Hitler wanted to paint, but did not get into the school."
"What if he did?"
*Silence*

[The Last Unknown Soldier]

he'd still commit suicide because his rascist and impressionistic art would be unpopular with many

[Kubador]

Originally Posted by FlyGuy45

"Hitler wanted to paint, but did not get into the school."
"What if he did?"
*Silence*

*After a while someone raises a hand*
- I would have a grandpa?

I know it's dark but I couldn't resist. Evil FTW!

[jumjum]

Originally Posted by Stefan F

they found the skull later on ( dont know by how much ) while digging the same ground again

They found the remaining part of the skull later. They got a portion of it in the first recovery, although I'm not sure which.