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JohnWalker January 26th, 2008 06:13 PM

Raaaambo!
 
Okay, the critics seem pretty polerized about this, and normally I'd ignore them, since film critics are usually a bunch of pretenious fuckwits, but they're pissin me off about this one.

Any one who calls Rambo a "jingoistic Imperialist tale" or complains about its hypocracy on violence needs to be slapped, hard. "Oh, but the whole film features Asains as evil, raping less than human killers or poor defenseless villagers who need to be killed/rescued by whites!" Well, excuse Stallone for not lending naunce and emotional depth to the 13 year old getting bayonet'd or the guy behind the bayonet. This shit happens people, whether you like it or not and whether you belive it or not, the American and British militaries don't stand for that crap.

On the other hand, those who call it a pointless action flick are missing a little, but its not as bad becuase Rambo works as a pointless action flick. The only real point is made about 15 minutes in. "If you ain't got guns, you ain't changing anything." Violence is brutal and horrible but nessicary.

With that out of the way, Stallone gets down to blowing mother fuckers to hell. It's gritty and gory and .50 cal rounds hit people like fucking frieght trains made of pain and justice. Rambo takes a team of mercenaries up river, (Including an hard ass ex SAS operater played by Graham McTavish) and the movie gets points for having the 'ex-special forces mercenaries' be fucking compatent at their jobs, instead of cannon fodder. The team knife's and shoots its way through a battalion of genocidial Burmese troops in a way that best could be descibied as 'Fuck yes!'.

The climax is a scene in which a pacifist Christian missonary beats a guy to death with a rock and its still the least hardcore shot around. If you want a documentry about how peace and love and donations to UNICEF can save the world, go elsewhere. If you want to stand up and cheer, and people cheered, as Rambo goes killing machine on some of the world's most deserving monsters, then this is your movie.

Braun January 26th, 2008 06:27 PM

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Yeah I liked it a lot, kicked ass.

foodmaniac2003 January 26th, 2008 08:29 PM

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Is this the new one?

[8th] Wise January 26th, 2008 10:57 PM

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The movie kicked ass, saw it Friday with a few friends, and not a single one of us had any regrets. It was gruesome, but appropriately so. You did get a sense of satisfaction when the baddies got what was coming to them. But the movie was far deeper than just pure shoot-em-up action, it brought more light to one of the most neglected genocides in the globe, when compared to say, Darfur. The lead bad guy is actually a victim of the Burmese (Myanmar) government's oppression, even putting himself in greater danger by portraying the role the way he did. The whole production crew and all of the actors had to live out in the Thai jungles during filming. The lead actress (Julie Benz), has now started to try to give more attention to the horrors going on over there. Sly still has it, and is very fortunate that the 'roids haven't consumed him like they did to those pro wrestlers. No nuances, no gray areas, no BS relativism (<coughs> Flags of Our Fathers <coughs>). There were the good guys, and there were the bad guys. The flick was everything I was hoping for, and them some.

130th Erich January 26th, 2008 11:38 PM

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Go Stallone!

H2HSnake January 27th, 2008 03:54 AM

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i want to see his new belly!!!!!! :rofl: it must be huge, i heard that he hides it behind a T-Shirt lol

Stray03 January 31st, 2008 06:29 PM

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Saw Rambo tonight and I fully agree with the OP. I half expected another Die Hard where the "special effects" drowned out the action but was pleasantly surprised. The only high end special effects added to the carnage sort of like the mini-gun scenes in "black hawk down" and "We Were Soldiers".

I did find a few issues with some of the shooting up scenes. (The initial 50 cal scene made the 50 look like a .223 with the damage it was doing to people.)

And the Mortaring the village scene was not the tactic you are supposed to use against untrained people (AKA villagers).

Apart from that I enjoyed the movie and found it great fun for the whole family.

Best movie I've seen in a long time.

Kezins January 31st, 2008 06:32 PM

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I enjoyed this film more than the original. The one-liners got a little silly after a while and I felt some scenes were over-dramatic.... but all-in-all it was a kick ass film. I was surprised Stallone pulled it off, but it looks like he was able to close the Rocky and Rambo series on good notes.

Archimonde0_0 January 31st, 2008 06:39 PM

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Everyone will complain about racism. There can no longer be an all white comedy, or an all white movie or show, cause people whine and moan "OH THERES NO BLACK PEOPLE IN IT, OH THIS IS RACIST NO ASIANS" yet there can be all Black, and all Asian shows, movies, etc. These people who talk of racism in Media, are no less of hypocrits than actual racist bastards.

Braun January 31st, 2008 06:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kezins (Post 4191996)
The one-liners got a little silly after a while and I felt some scenes were over-dramatic....

Ummm, correct me if I am wrong but that pretty much is the descripton of what Rambo is....

Stray03 January 31st, 2008 06:53 PM

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If you didn't laugh during the boat scene when The mercs and him are heading up stream I pity you.

jumjum January 31st, 2008 08:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnWalker (Post 4180136)
..."If you ain't got guns, you ain't changing anything." Violence is brutal and horrible but nessicary.....

I'm most reminded of this when I see the old, "War changes nothing!" slogans. Well, uh, wrong. You can say war is brutal and horrible and unfair, and you can argue about whether particular wars are unavoidable or unnecessary. But war changes everything. War is how tyrants rise or fall, monarchies end, religions are born or die, and how boundaries change. War, for good or ill, is the agent of change, not of the status quo.

Von Mudra January 31st, 2008 09:10 PM

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I throughly enjoyed this film.

Komrad_B February 1st, 2008 09:43 AM

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This movie is glorious. I don't think I have laughed that hard in a movie theater in a while. =p

jumjum February 1st, 2008 01:26 PM

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Too many Party members got killed for Komrad's liking. ;)

Huffardo February 1st, 2008 01:42 PM

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It is indeed glorious. Not as much of a statement as the first two, quite a bit more realistic than number two and three, but still the ridiculous carnage it is supposed to be. The plot is even almost believable, which is good.

I don't miss the explosive arrows. :)

Mayhemic.MAD February 2nd, 2008 05:21 PM

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I think I never had so much "omg, wtf!" moments watching a movie..
and itīs actually not overdosed like other action flicks like Die Hard 4 or Rambo 3 were the hero fights against helicopters and jets, but instead it has a lot of real nasty (but believeable) infantry combat scenes..

Komrad_B February 2nd, 2008 07:13 PM

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Indeed, I was a bit surprised he did not get to blast an helicopter. At least that flame throwing gunboat showed up. The tall boy+claymore semi-nukular explosion was impressive too. I swear I burst laughing after a while, that mushroom just wouldn't stop growing =p

Stray03 February 2nd, 2008 08:05 PM

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Did the British even use the tall boy in that part of the world? I know they used it to destroy the Tirpitz in Norway . (Wasn't that what it was invented for anyways? by same person who made the dam buster bombs).

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. February 2nd, 2008 08:14 PM

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The movie KICKED ASS (and I'm in the FH section OMFG!!11)

Ahem... The ONE complaint I had is the "kick" that the sniper had when he shot those guys. There isn't a hand held gun on the planet that will throw a guy like that, and if there was it would blow the shooters shoulder right off when it flew backwards from the force of the shot.

Other than that, it thoroughly quenched my thirst for blood and carnage.

JohnWalker February 2nd, 2008 08:21 PM

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Yeah, the flying from fifties bodies is one thing I normally can't stand in movie, but it just fit right and was done so well I couldn't complain about it here.

H2HSnake February 24th, 2008 03:11 PM

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I loved the movie!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D It's great!! especially HEADSHOTS!! and the one in the car - 50CAL mg headshot from 50 cm distance :D !

hockeywarrior2 February 24th, 2008 04:42 PM

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Man I really wish I had seen this when it was in theatres! I am in need of a good old shoot-em up movie that has a somewhat decent plot. Every time I watch one that I think is going to be good it goes way over the top.

This maybe what I was looking for lol... though the idea of Stalone still going at this age makes me roll my eyes.

Moose12 February 24th, 2008 04:59 PM

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I hated the plot, but it sure was a funny movie to watch. The big AA type gun at the end had me laughing.

130th Erich February 24th, 2008 09:59 PM

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They needed more bow and arrow rapage but it was so sick

Meadow February 25th, 2008 04:18 AM

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Looks like I'm gonna have to go out and watch this one.

H2HSnake February 25th, 2008 02:04 PM

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after so many years he finally got it! it's not about the muscles! and red scarf ! it's about firepower and mounted 50 cal!! First, army was testing 50 cal on civilians, then he was testing 50 cal on army :] and he PWNED !!!! totally loool.Anyone counted his frags?!

Stray03 February 25th, 2008 07:57 PM

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Well here is a good vid of a Kick and people who arn't used to shooting....



Anyways the problem with RL is that bullets don't pick you up and throw you across a field.

The difference between the time the bullet takes to move a foot and the time a 200 pound object takes to move a foot = SPLAT.


So the bullet hits you and before your body realizes it has to move the round has gone through you releasing some of its energy into shattering your bones and turning anything in its path into mush.
A good video to demonstrate this is this wonderful apache IR vid. I'd post a warning but I'm sure most of you have seen IR vid so you will know that blood is a nice yellowish green and people look like video game characters... so here you go...


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