3873479

August 21st, 2007 10:32 PM

Im sure if they make a Top 10 of Machineguns it will be Minimi - m60 - mg42 in the top 3 .

3873496

August 21st, 2007 10:48 PM

Wheres The Ross Rifle?!

3873517

August 21st, 2007 11:10 PM

Ross+Enfield=Springfield?

3873528

August 21st, 2007 11:34 PM

FAL pwns..

is like G3 on bf2

.50 is the new rfles of this times..

kill all!

3873602

August 22nd, 2007 01:14 AM

Good call, hadn't thought of it aside from the original Springfield (the big heavy hitter with minie balls).

100% agree, especially because it was mentioned in The Man Who Would Be King.

Also dead-on, IMHO the first "assault rifle". I disagree about the M-14, because it was such a ubiquitous weapon. Remember, the stupid thing about a list like this is that, as I said, you need to be clear on your criteria. The M-14 was not a successful or combat-influential weapon, but it was extremely widely used and a mainstay in the early Vietnam war.

A friend of mine bought an SKS in California for 50 bucks with a few hundred rounds of ammo (it's classified as a collector's weapon.) About half the rounds were duff, great fun.

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That's why I included the Krag -- it was basically the predecessor of the Springfield 1903 and, in terms of design, very influential.

I think it was more because of the futuristic looks and bullpup design. There are several rifles (the British and French ones currently used, whose names I forget, come to mind) that you could use in their place.

And I totally agree about the Lebel.

It also just occurred to me that it's sort of unfair to not include weapons that were not widely used, but still revolutionary in design, such as the Soviet underwater assault rifle, or the Stoner system -- just because they were both so ahead of their time.

3873618

August 22nd, 2007 01:23 AM

Technically,the first assault rifle was of Russian origin, though at the time there was no such designation, made before the second, and possible first, world war. Sorry to be so vague, but it was on a forum about guns...I know so vague but trust me, or look it up, it was the first.

Sorry to be such a nerd and or spoilsport.

3873628

August 22nd, 2007 01:35 AM

That's the Fedorov Avtomat 1916.



Wikipedia says the first assault rifle (didn't enter service) was the Cei-Rigotti (1915):

Atlante storico delle armi lunghe

(picture 46-1)

I also found this assault rifle timeline, which looks pretty cool even though it's not really inclusive:



Here's a parallel thread about assault rifles:

The First True Assault Rifle?

3873657

August 22nd, 2007 01:47 AM

Winchester repeater, hands down the most influential rifle of its day.

3873663

August 22nd, 2007 01:55 AM

If'n you's a plains Injun, yeah :-)

3873669

August 22nd, 2007 02:08 AM

Hey dont laugh, i wouldnt be unhappy going to war with that rifle even today. Its a fine weapon and accurate, quick loading, and its real light.