Global Warming.

[H2HSnake]

Originally Posted by stylie

"sky is falling" .

RLY...?

YouTube - Queens of The Stone Age The Sky is Fallin'

[Komrad_B]

and fuzzy ya the planet is warming (a LITTLE)

So, global warming DOES exist now?

but its not the political version (america version) of global warming.

Its not an american problem, its a global problem. The countries with the most left to do are those develloping countries that are growing very fast (China, India, ect.). However, western countries must show the way and devellop ways to be more energy efficient. I'm saddened by governements who stubbornly refuse to even admit there might be a problem or those who act in speech only, and this isn't limited to the US govt, far from it.

[Zarros.G2]

Originally Posted by Komrad_B

So, global warming DOES exist now?



Its not an American problem, its a global problem. The countries with the most left to do are those developing countries that are growing very fast (China, India, ect.). However, western countries must show the way and develop ways to be more energy efficient. I'm saddened by governments who stubbornly refuse to even admit there might be a problem or those who act in speech only, and this isn't limited to the US govt, far from it.

I agree. I really wish people would quit arguing and become more energy efficient, keeping the environment clean and the like. If everyone worked together it would make a huge difference, but sadly this is not the case.

[stylie]

I really believe its a little bit of this and little bit of that. Little things become big, you know and save you money in the long run. A couple things I plan to do to my first (or second) house!

Geothermal exchange. Simply put, you spread out pipes beneath your yard, 4 feet down. 4 feet below the earth it is constantly 55 degrees (Farenheit you commie bastards!) summer or winter. You run water or antifreeze or some such through these pipes. They then conduct 55 degrees back to your exchange unit that uses a radiator and blower, retro fitted into your existing systems and voila. You do not heat freezing air in the winter, you heat 55 degree air. You dont try to cool 95 degree air in the summer, you simply enjoy 55 degree air, to a degree. Couple that with hot water on demand. Electric heaters, individual ones under each sink. No tank, kept hot. The heater (Think "insinkerator") will give you instant hot water when employed. You can also use solar power. If you got the money, and use tax breaks that are available, you can become a small electric company that sells excess power BACK to the electric company!!! Think about that for a moment. They will pay YOU! AND you get tax breaks to do it! It always sounds scary, but if done right, youd have your money back in a few years.

Could you imagine if instead of huge producers distributing electricity to smaller users, it was the other way around using solar??? This is possible.

[N1GHTM4R3]

Originally Posted by Zarros.G2

If everyone worked together it would make a huge difference, but sadly this is not the case.

i think it would be fine and dandy IF everyone worked together but it will NEVER EVER EVER happen because that just the way it is.....e.g. you cant get GW extremeists (you) to agree with GW does not exists people (me) and im not even hardcore about it (i REALLY could care LESS about this topic) there are some that go to their deathbed that denei GW.


EITHER WAY.....no matter how much we argue we won't know till 100 years down the road when all the GW hipe has been crushed when it doesn't happen

[stylie]

Nightmare, first off, megadildos... I mean megadittos to you.
Secondly, spellcheck. Its tough to read your 10 posts in a topic you could care less about, while stopping to decipher every other word.
Moving right along, Is "conservation" a bad thing? Is it a good idea to consume everything you see because its there? Will the coal and oil last forever? And why wont you go after my posts too? Im feeling a little left out.

[Yossarian]

Nightmare has been torched, good night to you, dear sir.

+5 points for a pun, correct?

(torched, in a topic about global warming?! I am the height of too-muchery.)

[Wasserfaller]

global warming is all liberal commy lies, it's just cycles! Hot, cold, melt stuff, warm up stuff....it's nature! COMMIE LIBERAL PINKO LIES I TELLS YOU!

Yeah, the people who deny global warming are for the most part poorly informed, or have a political agenda. I agree, the facts are there, global warming is real, scientists know it, it's becoming very apparent around the world...

and even if it is all fake (which it isn't), that isn't really a valid excuse to plow down those green things that grow and make the stuff we breath. Kind of common sense if you ask me.

[Gen'l Knight]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy Bunny

That's a straw man and you know it.

Stuff...

That's just dumb.

Yeah I am such a damn idiot for not trusting certain factions of our society.

I know most, including government entities, have the concerns and well-being of its population right at the highest levels of considerations.

/** Sacasm off...

Remember, all, the initial point made was about the discovery of an error by NASA and the consequences.

Did the pinnacle of scientific ahievement on planet Earth publically acknowledge its critically flawed use of data and correct assertions made in the interest of better science and truth?

No.

Well this link may or may not be intersting depending on the opinion you hold on the subject.
Notes in the Margin · Implications of NASA’s Climate Data Errors


We all believe what we want to and that's what makes it a wonderful world.

[Fuzzy Bunny]

The discovery of an error about the hottest US day on record does not have the kinds of far-reaching implications in this discussion you seem to believe, Knight. Remember, I was very clear on my assertion that "global warming" is a horseshit term for a real phenomenon. Anyway, weren't NASA also the guys who did that whole inches/metric thing with Beagle? let's not go there. It may wound someone's national pride when I say that NASA, while overall a capable and respected organization, is not the be-all end-all unique and ultimately authoritative scientific source some people see it as.

Many areas of the world and the world overall _are_ getting warmer, that's been pretty conclusively shown. Some are also getting cooler. This seems to confuse some people. I think I have laid out in very simple, transparent terms why this need not be so, and why there is no inconsistency here.

[Yossarian]

Quoting my father: "Global Warming is a lie. I read that some places are actually getting much cooler!"

Place face in palm.

[jumjum]

Originally Posted by Yossarian

Quoting my father: "Global Warming is a lie. I read that some places are actually getting much cooler!"

Place face in palm.

No, Yossie, your father is a great man, for whom a huge head would have been erected on Easter Island - if he had been there before the, uh, climate change killed their island.

[Fuzzy Bunny]

I know you're being sarcastic, but that's actually pretty relevant. For those of you who don't know, the Easter island population was decimated by famine caused by basically cutting down all their trees.

Direct influence as opposed to indirect.

[stylie]

Originally Posted by jumjum

No, Yossie, your father is a great man, for whom a huge head would have been erected on Easter Island

LMAO Thats hilarious!!!!

Ive researched Easter island quite often as I find it fascinating. From what I know, fuzzy is right about the tree thing. They basically made a type of giant palm tree extinct. There were however some survivors when the island was first discovered, but IIRC it was famine and war brought on by the mowing of their island. Fuzzy, of course has been there. Wasnt there a few aboriginal people there when discovered fuzz?

[jumjum]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy Bunny

I know you're being sarcastic, but that's actually pretty relevant.

No, I was, ta da!, playing it straight. Confusion of my audience is the main prob with being such a smugly sarcastic asshole most of the time. I was actually aware they destroyed their island directly through their culture. And, yes, it is a lesson to us.