Global Warming.

[Fuzzy Bunny]

0.6 degrees celsius in the last 100 years. No, not a lot, but it's caused a 10-20cm sea level rise.

The warming has accelerated in recent years. IPCC estimates a 1.5-4.5 degree rise by 2100. Even if that's a linear rise, do the math, and consider not buying that Florida beachfront property you've always wanted. PIK and IPCC FAR estimate a 25-60 INCH rise. That's 50-140cm.

Doesn't sound like a lot, right? Well, I'll be happy in Zurich, which is pretty far above sea level, and which won't be affected by changed ocean currents. Thing is, that's an average temperature rise. I wonder where we'll put all those poor stinky bastards from third world countries where that small average rise has caused increasing desertification and destroyed crop supplies? Hope you've got space for that family of Ethiopians in your back yard.

Thing is, it's not just direct effects from global warming. "Greenhouse gases" are called that because every bit increase in the earth's temperature increases the amount of evaporated water in the atmosphere -- changing the planet's albedo drastically with even a small percentage change. That's right kids, completely different sunshine and heat retention patterns everywhere. But hey, LA LA LA LA, bust out the hot chicks in the thong bikinis and SPF 900 suntan, surf's up!

[N1GHTM4R3]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy Bunny

bust out the hot chicks in the thong bikinis and SPF 900 suntan, surf's up!

heck ya!

[zuiquan1]

Originally Posted by stylie

Nothing new about steam. Its heating said steam... with what?

MANLY SPIRIT!!!!!!

[Rafterman]

I remain skeptical. Global Warming is way too convenient if you ask me - it's hot , uh global warming; it's cold, uh global warming; it's dry, uh global warming; it's wet, uh global warming; too many hurricanes, uh global warming; not enough hurricanes, uh global warming. It goes on and on.

Thanks to a Canadian blogger finding the error, NASA announced this week that it had made an error when it said that 1998 was the hottest year on record. The hottest year on record was actually in the 1930s. There was also an article in a 1922 Newsweek that stated that global warming was happening then. And we all remember the 1970s "new ice age.

The world's climate is just too dynamic to make such sweeping ascertains using such limited data. Not to mention, we should all be skeptical when the answer to the problem is to funnel money from wealthier nations to poorer ones or when countries like China and India get a pass from things like Kyoto.

All of that said, we should all do everything in our power to live as green a lifestyle as possible.

[Mr. BlOnd.Dk]

Originally Posted by stylie

Please explain the growing ice....

On Greenland, the ice is melting at the edges, but growing in thickness. The ice, is in fact compressed snow. So when the weather changes, with a heavier downfall, the ice will grow in thickness.

[Fuzzy Bunny]

Originally Posted by Rafterman

I remain skeptical. Global Warming is way too convenient if you ask me - it's hot , uh global warming; it's cold, uh global warming; it's dry, uh global warming; it's wet, uh global warming; too many hurricanes, uh global warming; not enough hurricanes, uh global warming. It goes on and on.

"Global warming" is the stupidest term anyone ever came up with to describe a real phaenomenon. I can turn your argument around and say that the moment there's a cold spell, you have experts coming out of the woodworks yelling "SEE? NO GLOBAL WARMING. LA LA LA LA." Try "climate change." What you're missing is the fact that small changes in large climatic systems have effects far beyond their immediate local impact, as I tried to describe earlier.

A tiny tiny variation in average temperature (which we can pretty clearly agree has been the case overall, ne?) has massive massive implications for weather patterns, ocean currents, solar radiation, plant populations, geological changes (consider a small amount of glacier melt causing massive mud slides causing deforestation causing a weather pattern shift) and others.

The point is that climate is something far too complex to model accurately by either global warming proponents and opponents, because the variables and interdependencies involved in establishing a working simulation are just too difficult to understand right now. However, shit IS changing, and drastically so, and modern science quite sufficiently understands enough of the resultant local cross-effects to determine that it's not good. LA LA LA LA.

[Gen'l Knight]

Earlier posts have stated that Mars is warming also.

Can someone here, in the context of all stated, explain to me what that means?

Logic says that "it appears, Captain Kirk, the star of this solar system is having excess emissions of material that is causing a thermal flux on the surfaces of its orbiting planets."

And yes 20 years or so ago, we were supposed to be headed toward an Ice Age without even Ray Romano.

Yes we cannot predict the weather than is going to occur tomorrow.

Coupled with the propensity for certain groups of people to exploit and twist current events to advance their agendas, I do not believe the hype of "global warming."

We probably ought to quit eating and raising beef and mutton becausee their excessive flagalance is a contributing factor to carbon emmisions.

And Stylie, when you plant trees, usually they are in a forest. Not many where planted like Johnny Appleseed planted apple trees back in the day...

Here is a link to an interesting article:

Hot tempers on global warming - The Boston Globe

Talk about censorship and pushing the masses in one direction.

And yes, it bothers me when I hear of "global warming" being forced on 1st and second graders.

The end result is a great distrust of industrialzation and a move to tree hugging. There is an agenda here.

[Mr. BlOnd.Dk]

Beachparty, Summer of 2069 - on Antartica.

Hyper Penguin video - Funny videos - MadnessVideo.net

[N1GHTM4R3]

ok since we're all in disagreement (kinda) this is the betting thread i say $56Million that well all still be here the same as we are and the sea wont rise from mass melting on the poles

[foodmaniac2003]

Maybe we're heading toward another one of those "Little Ice Ages" that happened in Europe half a millennium ago?