Too Many WW2 Games? Hogwash, I Say!

[LIGHTNING [NL]]

You are mixing them up actually, Juno beach is where the Canadians landed. And to be honest, I don't know what you mean. I don't know any games or movies that show the British D-Day landings, but not the Canadian ones.

[jumjum]

Oh, uh, lost my place. I was referring to Lightning's post in the Japanese naming convention's thread.

[stylie]

Remember how riveting it was when you first saw the beach landing on SPR? I watched it about 6 months ago and thought to myself... Trudging that beach in FH is so much harder!!!

[Crazy Wolf]

Waitaminute. You surely aren't suggesting that a game about World War Two expand its boundaries to include the entire world, are you? That's just silly. Everyone knows Americans were the only people to fight in WWII, with helpful tutorials by Americans putting on Russian or British accents. Americans actually had a massive breeding program during the 1920s and late 1910s, producing millions upon millions of young men fit for combat. They were then given false papers and sent to Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Britain, and Russia, where they used their espionage skills, honed since birth, to assassinate millions of Russians, Brits, and Commonwealth young men and assume their identities. The plan, as all plans conceived by Americans, went off without a hitch, allowing Americans to make a deal with Hitler in order to help the new American film industry in Hollywood by giving them enough fodder for millions of hours of films. The invasion of Poland was a hoax, where German B-list actors played the Poles. The Americans were in on it, but wanted to make sure it seemed realistic, so they messed with the Poles too. The Americans, gleeful after a successful scene, decided to celebrate by "invading" Finland. The Finns, not in on the plan, promptly butchered the Americans, who were taken aback by their hostility. I mean, come on, they were just playing! The Finns were not amused.

Americans then waited for the Germans to invade France and attack Britain, which would make great cinema, especially with the unplanned inclusion of a handful of Americans who weren't in on the joke serving alongside the "Brits". However, Americans on the Eastern Front, planning to make a prank raid on Berlin, were rudely surprised when Hitler decided to call off the movie deal and attacked Russia. The Americans realized this wasn't a joke right about the time that the Wehrmacht reached Stalingrad, and, being Americans, kicked the ass of the Nazis(who were so forfeiting their royalties from the movies for this!) and pushed towards Berlin.

Since American realized this might have been a bit boring for the moviegoers, they decided to opt for a change of scenery and decided to invade France. They chose Northern France for the believability factor of the "British" being involved, and chose Southern France for the scenery. Oddly, Southern France was almost completely ignored by filmmakers, but no matter, that vein will last the film goldmine for a few decades once they tap into it. We all know what happened from there, thanks to the many films about the Americans singlehandedly defeating the Nazis from there(The "Brits", "Commonwealth soldiers", and "Russians" respectfully declined any accolades from the American filmmakers).

[R38 4010]

and more anyway, Medal of Honor European Assault gave me some sort fo comfort by working with bots, sometimes entire companies/regiments. But you always got to do the dirty work, and an American with the British in St. Naziare? Wicked sick. Normandy, in fact, is underdone. What about the thick Hedgerows? What about getting OFF the beaches? This stuff isin't looked at. People think Normandy was just Omaha/ Utah Beach.

[Moose12]

I want more Canadian Battles, especially want to play their retreat at Dunkirk

[Mad Cat]

Originally Posted by Moose12

I want more Canadian Battles, especially want to play their retreat at Dunkirk

I don't quite see the fun in a map where you just run away?!?

[Mad Cat]

Originally Posted by Danger X

Another thing I detest in most WWII movie games, is that if they do D-Day, they only do Omaha Beach or Juno Beach, But never Sword beach(forgive me if I am mixing up, but I think You get the point.) This is very frustrating, since it is not just about England or America in D-Day.

Well i understand them...
You don't want a movie where people land where nothing happened...
Omaha was the worst, at sword they had some problems with the first wave, but were off the beach quite fast, and juno and gold was just a bit of cannon fodderism to get off the beach in like an hour only. And Utah was even easier. Most D-Day soldiers (those who landed on Utah, juno and gold specifically) said they were disappointed with the big "D-Day" thing, some found it to be easier than the exercices in England...
The only movie in which i have ever seen juno beach featured is "the longest day" in which all the beaches are featured, Gold, Juno, Sword, Omaha, Pointe du Hoc, Utah...Only the Saint-Marcouf islands are left out, because the allies found only landmines there...
The book is far more interesting.

[Danger X]

Again I have to rectify myself. I meant the games like MoH and CoD when I said Movie games.

Also, no matter how many times you play the single player, you always fall stunned out of the landing craft in CoD 2, because it is arranged that way. What I like to see, is that every time you fall down because of shellshock or anything very bad, a soldier leans over to help you, like in BF 2, where a medic comes when you call him. This does not effect the cinematic effects, but it does give a more diverse gaming experience. It would also make interacting with the bots possible, and that in turn makes it more realistic. So no more pre set deaths to make it shocking, but more "I'll go up front to see if there's a machine gun round the corner" action.

Right now, when I play D-Day in CoD 2, I almost automatically stop moving the mouse when I am at that damn point in the game, because I know I cannot do anything.

By changing that, and giving people even more routes toward a goal, game makers can prevent the "oh, now we have a bit of movie, lets rest a bit" reflex.

Again, I already said that I probably mixed up the names of the beaches. Also, I didn't mean the movies when I said movie games, because today, a movie spanning all the beaches would take way too long.

[Mad Cat]

because today, a movie spanning all the beaches would take way too long.

Would be nice though, to shoot a modernized and more realistic version of "The Longest Day"...
If you read the book, it's a great story written like book, and yet it gives you a mountain of precise information and anecdotes on D-Day, as it was written just after the war, when the information was still fresh, and the persons needed to interview still easy to be found...