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Old July 5th, 2007   #1
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he's one of the great chinese that write many amazing stories, now availiable in english and other language, i like them very much personally...

anyone here ever heard of it or even read it?

Jin Yong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i am a chinese, i wanna know how the foreigners felt about his works.

i once was reading his book and forget to sleep and also forget to play FH



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You write pretty good english for a chinese person Gen. henry, you live in hong kong or somewhere else in china?

About your question , no i havent read any of his books, but im not much of a reader of stories. I like tech manuals and weird stuff like that, anything about science or new tech, i like. Or new inventions and stuff. Or history, i love reading about old civilizations, I would have loved to have been an anthropologist. Unfortunately i had no parental support as a child, so whatever education i have is almost all self-taught. I was homeless and lived on the street from the time i first hit my teens, until a few years later when i finally was old enough to work. So i never really had any time to get into books for enjoyment.


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haha, i am glad to hear that my English is not bad...i am actually a guy in Hong Kong...too bad my English grade in exam is another story lol

i have to add that that Louis Cha writes Kung Fu stories, or what so called Wuxia stories, well, i know westerners are pretty interested in these martial arts lol.


also, if you guys are interested in Traditional Chinese Culture and history this could be a starting point.

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Chinese nationalism is a strong theme in Jin Yong's work. Throughout his books, Jin Yong places great emphasis on Han Chinese self-determination and identity, and many of his novels are set in time periods when China proper was occupied or under the threat of occupation by northern peoples such as Khitans, Jurchens, Mongols, or Manchus. However, Jin Yong gradually evolved Chinese nationalism into an inclusionist concept which encompasses all present-day non-Han minorities. Jin Yong himself expresses a fierce admiration for positive traits of non-Han Chinese people, like the Mongols and Manchus. In The Legend of the Condor Heroes, for example, he casts Genghis Khan and his sons as capable and intelligent military leaders against the corrupt and ineffective bureaucrats of the Han Chinese Song Dynasty. And similarly, in The Deer and the Cauldron, Jin Yong portrays the Manchu Kangxi Emperor as a sovereign of compassion and ability. In Demi-Gods and Semi-Devils, Xiao Feng's split loyalty between his blood ancestry as a Khitan and his adopted Han Chinese identity led to his demise.
Jin Yong's books are often said to be a mini-encyclopedia on Chinese customs and culture, with references ranging from Traditional Chinese Medicine, acupuncture, wushu, music, calligraphy, weiqi, tea culture, philosophical thoughts like Confucianism, Buddhism and Taoism, and imperial Chinese history. Historical figures often intermingle with fictional ones, making it difficult for the layperson to distinguish which is which — a feature that attests to the believability of his characters.
His works clearly show a great amount of respect and approval for traditional Chinese values, especially Confucian ideals such as the proper relationship between empire and subject, father and son, elder brother and younger brother, and (particularly strongly, due to the wuxia nature of his novels), between master and disciple, and fellow disciples. However, he sometimes questions the validity of these values in the face of a modern society. This is particularly obvious in the ostracism experienced by his two main characters — Yang Guo's romantic relationship with his martial arts master Xiaolongnü (which was considered highly improper) in The Return of the Condor Heroes. Jin Yong also places a great amount of emphasis on traditional values such as face and honour.



by far i read from wiki these are availiable in English

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In the last few years, Jin Yong's novels have been translated into English. The books currently available are:
  • The Book and the Sword (書劍恩仇錄) - published by Oxford University Press, translated by Graham Earnshaw, edited by John Minford and Rachel May
  • The Deer and the Cauldron (鹿鼎記) (in three volumes) - published by Oxford University Press, translated by John Minford
  • The Legend of the Condor Heroes (射鵰英雄傳) - forthcoming from John Minford and Oxford University Press (This project was abandoned a few years ago.)
  • Fox Volant of the Snowy Mountain (雪山飛狐) - published by the China University Press, translated by Olivia Mok
Other works available in English include:
  • Heaven Sword and Dragon Sabre (倚天屠龍記) - in comic book form by Wing Shing Ma, published by ComicsOne
  • The Legendary Couple (神鵰俠侶) - in comic book form by Tony Wong, published by ComicsOne
  • Laughing in the Wind (笑傲江湖) - DVD collection of the 2001 CCTV series with English subtitles released in the United States.

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Lots of interesting stuff, thanks.


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if you guys want to read his works, here is a online english translated work,

Eagle Shooting Hero / Jin Yong / Novels / Wuxiapedia - The comprehensive wuxia knowledge base

i read some of it due to curiosity but it's real good

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note: don't blame me if you get hooked in these novels and hurts your studies, business, whatever...



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In Indonesia, many Chinese people also read this kind of books. Some of them even have adapted into local kung-fu stories like Kho-Ping Ho (just search on the net), it is very classical Chinese martial arts story, but entirely Indonesian setting, it shows how close the relationship between the foreigners and Indonesian before the Nederlanden came, occupied, and introduced racialism to all of the people.
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Im sorry to say I have not heard of this person before. Looks like some interesting stuff.

Seems like his stuff would be similar genre to "Romance of the Three Kingdoms".
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There are 5 major Chinese classic literatures. One of the 5 is "The Romance of Three Kingdoms", the other like "Water Margins" (Sui Hu Chuan or literary translates to water banks) could also be interesting to most of you, while introduce complex characterizations. It is also well known as the romance of 99 heroes.

The story is about heroic rebellion against corrupted emperor lead by Robin Hood-like man in a more elegant and civilized manner, the man, Sun Jiang is regarded as a very well-respected man despite his subordinates' behavior. There were no element of terrorism used in the rebellion acts, they fight with guerrilla army and do professional battle with the corrupted emperor's army.
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There are 5 major Chinese classic literatures. One of the 5 is "The Romance of Three Kingdoms", the other like "Water Margins" (Sui Hu Chuan or literary translates to water banks) could also be interesting to most of you, while introduce complex characterizations. It is also well known as the romance of 99 heroes.

The story is about heroic rebellion against corrupted emperor lead by Robin Hood-like man in a more elegant and civilized manner, the man, Sun Jiang is regarded as a very well-respected man despite his subordinates' behavior. There were no element of terrorism used in the rebellion acts, they fight with guerrilla army and do professional battle with the corrupted emperor's army.
they are real interesting , especially the three kingdoms...i have read most of the five.

the Water Margins needs more understanding of chinese to enjoy it ...so i will never suggest one to read it as a start



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