The emergence of Vizio and ViewSonic
 

I see that these tv/monitor folks are muscling into the market, and just bitch-slapping the usual industry leaders by producing what from all appearances are pretty high quality goods for incredibly low prices. At least their prices are low while they're still stealing market share from the fat and happy. FWIW, tt seems I had read there was perhaps some relationship between the two outfits, but I'm unsure if that is true.

I've had a recent wonderful experience with a ViewSonic 22" flat widescreen LCD monitor, 1680x1050. It is absolutely the most crisp, brilliant, beautiful thing I've ever seen. And for $275 US. I would have had to have spent at least double to have gotten the same size and quality with the usual monitor makers. I'm in love.

Do yourself a favor and at least check Vizio (not to be confused with MicroSoft's "Visio" software) and ViewSonic out when you're in the market.

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Dont know much about the vizio line. (Isnt that the "value" TV that sells in Best Buy?). I was ooking at a 1080p CRT, 32 inches. I actually declined because it did not look cool enough!!! I figured if I buy a kick ass HD TV its gotta look like something cool too! I wound up finding a flat panel 37 inch for less money anyway. And looks really good in the living room. Regular CRT TV's are plain ugly in a living room. These flat panels have that Lexus kind of look!

Either way for the PC I use the VX924 19". It actually has 1 stuck pixel, which from time to time drives me absolutely insane. So I "flick" it and it turns from pink to blue and/or back again, makes me feel better for about 10 seconds. This pixel doesnt stop me from agreeing with you though! Cant remember the model number VX944/2?!? Ive been out of the market for a little while, but it has a 2ms response time. I will also be watching for a reasonable projector for at least 1280x1024, they seem to be coming down in price as well. VS will definitely be in the running.

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I guess ViewSonic has dropped their prices? I've always found that they were insanely expensive. Maybe it's just here in Canuckistan, but I'm going to stick with my gorgeous LG. <3

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I have no knowledge of VS prior to about 6 weeks ago. My guess is that the low-pricing is a strategy to increase market share: they mean to suck some business away from the other guys, and when they feel they have developed a little brand loyalty and word-of-mouth, they'll more than likely raise prces to the point they think thay can do so without losing too many past and future customers. This is a common marketing startegy for companies trying to get themsleves known and get some more business. It costs money, because the idea is not to make a profit right off the bat....with this startegy they very well may lose money. It can work if you have a high-quality product, and I think ViewSonic does.

From what I can read and observe, the are pricing their equivalent models at anywhere from 40% to 70% of their competitors.

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Ive been thinking new, bigger, monitor, for a while now. My old 17" isnt cutting it anymore. Especially when playing against 22"+ monitors, targets are alot bigger on larger monitors.

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RBS, this is my TV

LVM-37W3

Westinghouse 37" 1080p LCD HDTV. with DVI, you can hook up your PC without any loss. I still see it for under $1,000. I bought it from Plasmabay.com for $805. I waited and waited, absolutely best price Ive ever seen for it, It has PIP, my buddy watches TV while playing FH or Oblivion on the same screen. I honestly have nothing bad at all to say, read a descrip. Currently, I do not use it for a monitor, but I can as easily hook up the PC. via DVI

Description: Westinghouse?s LVM 37w3 is a stunning 37" 1080p monitor that enhances the decor of any entertainment room. This versatile 1080p monitor functions as a television when hooked up to an external HD cable or satellite box or can also serve as a computer monitor when attached to a PC. Featuring an industry-leading six HD input connectors for high definition sources consumers can watch TV, DVDs, play video games, surf the Internet or view digital photos in 1080p resolution.HD Cable, HD Satellite & HD Gaming: The Westinghouse LVM-37w3 1080p Monitor is specifically optimized for use with high definition sources. Don?t be trapped with only 1-choice. Westinghouse lets you attach all your favorite sources using uncompressed highest performance digital interfaces. Multiple high-bandwidth digital-interfaces mean you can have HD digital cable, HD satellite and a digital game console. Additionally, PC and notebooks users can enjoy the same fat pipe and the industry best Genesis Display Perfection? technology.Design Excellence: Amazingly thin for its size, you get 37 inches at only 4.7 inches deep (w/o base) allowing you to mount this stylish monitor on your wall. Now that?s art! Connector access is a breeze with the innovative SpineDesign ? allowing easy side access to (not just 1 legacy input) all of the connectors while still on the wall

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I thought about a T.V. monitor, but i need the ability for extreme high-res for graphical work.

T.V.'s just arent HD enough yet for what i need.

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Would that be a
LG L204WTX 20IN Widescreen LCD Silver Black 5MS 1680X1050 2000:1
which I bought for ~300 CAN on a sale? Damn it I love it <3<3

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1920x1080 not good enough??? Dude its insane with a PC, technically speaking though, it is a monitor. No tuner at all, thats what the cable box/video card is for. Trust me, this would blow your doors off! Plus with that real estate you could run several applications at once, side by side.

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Come on Stylie let's at least have a semi-complete res list. Geeeeieesh
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Touche' :lol:

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Actually, no its not. :)

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i dont think i could ever get used to a TFT screen , even though over the years the quality went up and 2ms to prevent ghosting , i still prefer my 19 inch crt above all , even though its hard to find crts these days .

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And trying to find a CRT in the 20+ inch range foggedaboutit... hehe tit

I tried so hard but I could only get one with shipping which would put the cost well over the 20.1 inch TFT that I ended up buying.

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Smoooooooth... :smokin:

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(stylie)"1920x1080 not good enough???":eek: Dang, I am definitely in rarefied air. I had thought maybe I was upper-ending it with my new monitor, but *blush* I see I'm not.

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LOL, Here is a little something some of you guys might like, The Matrox triplehead2go. Here at work I am testing the dual head for a specific application. I can write a little review for it if you are interested. If you guys like this thing, wait a little while as the DVI version will be released any day now.

http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/gx...gital/home.php

http://www.matrox.com/graphics/media.../gxm/home4.jpg

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Now thats what im looking for! Whats one of those cost, minus the extra monitors?

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Aaah, what the hell! Enjoy!

A little hardware review for you guys.

In my company the standard pc of choice is currently the IBM thinkcentre M52. I got charged with finding multi-monitor support for these pc’s. We have a huge field and small IT department, so this decision is tougher than you would think. We would need a product that would be easy to support if launched to the wider environment and future models of PC’s. The problem is that this PC is not your run of the mill tower. It is smaller and I would have to plug an internal video card into a funky daughter card 90 degree angle chumpee! This was fine when using a $30 card by lenovo when we used the S-51 model. As soon as we uploaded new images for then next line of PC’s to CDW, it was clear that my awesome decision was not so great in terms of expandability, my card was not supported by the next line of Think Centres which is BS considering it is manufactured by Lenovo. It was perfect, even, plug and play.

Ive always been interested in Matrox products, specifically the Parhelia line which is a card with triple monitor support. This particular line offered something different then the cards that were out there, only thing is, they always used inferior tech. As we switched to PCI they’d be AGP. PCI-E, they were dipping their toes into PCI. They’re cards always came at a premium as well $250-$500 for sub-par processing… So I waited and watched.

Enter the Matrox Dual and Triple Head2Go. We decided we had to get this product in because it may be exactly what we are looking for. I got the dually yesterday and started my testing. A little confusing at first but got it working playing with the refresh rate. The dually goes for about $160, our price and we don’t get huge deals, plus we would max out at about 10 of these for now, to run our command center. I really really like this product. The beauty is that you use your own existing video cards. Plug your cable into your card, then to the dualhead2go which branches out two cables from there. Pretty cool. Remember, our IBM’s run video off of the mobo, so with this, we are no longer constrained to IBM’s proprietary interface.

Basically, it tells your video card to produce screen res’s equal to the real estate involved, Then the unit splits it up to the other displays, your vid card is none the wiser. It includes the functionality to either void or add the image loss due to the bezels.

I still need to get benchmarks for this card yet so I plan on installing some graphic intensive stuff. I plan on calling them later because I want to know if I use fraps or something like that, will I get good readings, being that the device is “external”. I will let you all know what I find out. Im very interested in this product.

A couple of limitations for you. It does not support multiple widescreen monitors. Currently this is VGA. They have already announced DVI but it’s not out to the public yet so Im not biting until then. I expect the price to come in around $325US. If the benchmarks come in good, I may bite for the home PC triple, I just want to run framerates off of the Matrox device and make sure there is no loss. No, BF is not supported. List of games found here:
http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/gxm/products/th2go/gaming/list.php


But there are tons of games out there that will be a lot of fun. I believe that at one time, You could use the parhelia with BF but dice yanked that within an early patch, You could probably use it for SP though. Primarily Id use it for racing and flight sim games. Also, I am in the process of learning several graphics/web software and its hard to read and do tutorials the same time, I definitely need another monitor at home but using 2 for gaming? Hell no. Have to go with 3.

Supported resolutions, not the greatest in terms of high def, but gaming with peripheral vision, HAS to be the bomb!!!





System compatibility. .

http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/gxm/support/th2go/digital/compatibility.php

Remember, it is only analog right now, DVI is anyday now. I signed up for availability notification, so I'll give you guys a scream when they let me know.

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One other thing I forgot. It seems that it is not as friendly to ATI users. I bought my Nvidia based on price, I like ATI stuff alot. This is something that they HAVE to address if they want to go to the next level.

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I'll be watching for this too, ive always wanted some kind of system like this for racing, and flight sims, and so on...

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Yeah, I feel Ill be purchasing one of those units at some point. I also want to check out some more DIY type setups, as it is now, I couldnt fit another vid card in my system. That 7900gtx is frickin huge and there is a fan on my mobo that interferes.

I should probably upgrade the proc and mobo before I start going in that direction though. Dual core... yummay!

Hell YEAH! But Eff all those CRT's!!!

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