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Constipated Dictator April 19th, 2007 08:44 AM

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we arent just gonna give them up because 32 civilians got killed.

Didn't think I would ever get to see that in my life time, lol. Oh well, live and learn.

Tas April 19th, 2007 09:00 AM

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Gun bans will never happen over here, theres too many people who wouldnt support it. Some of whom have huge political clout, and the rest are the majority of voters.

Aye, the majority knows what's best.

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The screaming about bans almost unanimously comes from European countries with bans. Personally i think its because Europeans have bans and cant have guns, and cant stand we that we can own guns.
I suggest you keep thinking hard. :D

Real-BadSeed April 19th, 2007 09:09 AM

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Aye, the majority knows what's best.
Its not about whats best, its about what the majority wants, period. Whats best has nothing to do with it.

There are few N. Americans demanding gun banning over this.. And those that are, are the same ones who've been demanding them for years. On this forum its been mostly Europeans going on about bans.

GirlsHateMe April 19th, 2007 09:10 AM

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This was done by a South Korean Immigrant, I sure hope this doesn't raise any racial hatred views. It just shows anyone can be a murderer. Every American high schools/colleges/universites should now have armed protection staff 24/7 as the matter can always come crawling at anytime.

Tas April 19th, 2007 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Real-BadSeed (Post 3638419)
Its not about whats best, its about what the majority wants, period. Whats best has nothing to do with it.

It should be all about what is best, though.

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There are few N. Americans demanding gun banning over this.. And those that are, are the same ones who've been demanding them for years. On this forum its been mostly Europeans going on about bans.
It's because we know firsthand how well total control works, it is short sighted to think it can work over there though, due to the many guns already around and constitutional fanatics around it will not work in the foreseeable future, it is however equally short sighted to think that total gun control is a negative factor in every society.
The US got off to a bad start, “we” however have not. :)

Real-BadSeed April 19th, 2007 09:21 AM

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Its coming out now that he was picked on badly for being different during his early school life. Language barrier and so on contributed to this, but you know how cruel kids can be. It also looks like he may have targeted 2 girls from his high school, although they dont know for sure.

It this kind of stuff that needs to be dealt with, the conditions that created this killer. There isnt near enough monitoring of kids behaviour in elementary and high school, especially outside the classroom. The singling out and picking on of certain kids has to be stopped. And this crap happens in every school. I saw it in every school i ever went to.. And i went to alot of different schools.

Tas April 19th, 2007 09:27 AM

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People keep saying this, but it never happens.. and untill the next shooting no-one will mention it after the first few weeks of hype. It'll happen, and it will continue to happen. It wouldnt be too much of a tragedy if the killers focussed on just the bullies.

Real-BadSeed April 19th, 2007 09:30 AM

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It should be all about what is best, though.
aha, but whos to say what is best. You only say that because, you've decided you know whats best.

No one is saying gun bans wouldnt work, were saying we dont want to lose our rights and freedoms to achieve total safetyness from psycho killers, although it opens us up to unsafetyness from malicious goverments. And if it means the odd civilians get killed, oh well thats the price of freedom.

Ill put it to you this way.. If we were attacked, and someone was here to take our rights and freedoms.. We would have put uniforms on those students and sent them to die if necassary, to defend those rights.

Tas April 19th, 2007 09:46 AM

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I don’t understand why you speak of the right to bear arms as if it resembles all your rights and freedoms. I know a lot of NRA types are all paranoid about the government planning to steal their few acres of derelict land and whatnot, but I figured you were more intelligent than that. If the right to bear arms was taken away, or nerfed, it would mean just that, you can’t carry, you still have everything else.


If this is about “slippery slope” situations.. and the government then being free to then take all the other rights[/tinfoilhat], think about how the unarmed people of the world are still free.

Meadow April 19th, 2007 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Real-BadSeed (Post 3638442)
aha, but whos to say what is best. You only say that because, you've decided you know whats best.

No one is saying gun bans wouldnt work, were saying we dont want to lose our rights and freedoms to achieve total safetyness from psycho killers, although it opens us up to unsafetyness from malicious goverments. And if it means the odd civilians get killed, oh well thats the price of freedom.

Ill put it to you this way.. If we were attacked, and someone was here to take our rights and freedoms.. We would have put uniforms on those students and sent them to die if necassary, to defend those rights.

You would have presumably given them guns, rather than expect them to bring their own, right?


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