The Chinese are making a game called "Anti-Japan War Online"

[oscar989]

Originally Posted by <StG>Nighthawk

There was an IMMENSE reason for dropping the Nukes on Japan.

The casualties for an invasion of Japan was estimated in the MILLIONS for America alone. Thats not countring the hundered of thosands of Japanese who would have either fought to the death or have been force to commit suicide.

If we hadn't dropped the bombs then there would have been atleast twice the casualties of Americans for the entire war.

As for this game all I have to say is LOL

The really funny part is it might acually have good gameplay for all we know

thousands of japanese? try millions of japanese, british, and americans. if you are from any of those countries and your grandpa served in the pacific there is a good chance you might not be there. my friends grandpa was an american GI and would have been in the first wave. the first wave would have been competely wiped out.

[Dios]

The Japanese already knew that the US was able to attack their island, the Dolittle raid was enough to prove that, so dropping the bombs above some nearby island could have had a similar persuasive effect, like warning them "Next time it'll be Tokyo", but as I said it's all just especulations, I can't be sure it would have worked without killing the people of Hiroshima, and you guys can't be sure it wouldn't have worked anyways without all the deaths.

[Afterburner]

Yeah for all they knew it could have been a trick by the Americans using lights or something. The Doolittle raid proved we could strike in the heart of Japan, Hiroshima and Nagasaki proved we could strike and kill the heart of Japan along with every square meter of land. If the Japs didn't surrender when they did another bomb was being planned for Kyoto and Tokyo.

Hiroshima was acually a millitary target making the civilian casualities technically collateral. There was a garrison of about 4000 soldiers there if I'm not mistaken, plus it was a legitmate industrial target being that just about every single house was being used for cottage industry.

Last I recall the American casualties would have been something like 2-3 million, along with the 5 or so million casualties for the Japs. And also lets not forgot the Russians who would probaly have invaded a bit after us. Along with the hundereds, if not thosands, of American POWs. not to mention the likely last ditch , all out, attacks by Japan on civilian populations of China and even the continental U.S.

Total casualties on all sides could have easily gone over 10 million.

Total casualties for the war as it went are somewhere between 60 million and 90 million. So if an invasion of Japan had gone through it could have been as much as 100 million or more, the estimates of the dead would have amounted to somewhere between 10% and 20% of total casualties for the entire war. Then there are the wounded. Thosands more would have died after the war because of wounds.

It's been shown statistically speaking that the number of casualties for your average war has dropped something like 80 or 90%(please someone correct me if I'm wrong) due to the fact that there hasn't been a war on the scale of WWII.It's been attributed to the fact that any war between major powers has a good chance of ending in nuclear winter and everyone knows it.

As long as we don't get too inflamed I think this is a perfectly legitamate
topic.

[Artie Bucco]

This is my angle on the dropping of the atomic bombs yes the casualties from the invasion would have been absurd for the alliers. But keep in mind, the whole island chain that is Japan would have been under siege. Japan was at the time having food shortages. Any extended siege of Japan would have set off a famine that would have killed way more than the two A-bombs

[GunsOfBrixton29]

What I'd like to know is, how come the ones that are complaining about this game don't complain about that games that are about fighting the Communist Russians?

[Zoo_MotorPool]

Something that those Extremists (not nationalists anymore) should remember is that to forgive but not to forgot. If the Japs denied, then so be them, because the truth is always there despite how many stupid bullshit the government is sprouting.

Political game is just as lame as propaganda for idiots.

[=7DR=von.small]

anyone feel as though all attention is now migrating from the middle East to China?
take a guess where the next war will be?

this is a faggoty world of power hungry, idiotic, greedy, self applauding, closed minded fools.

instead of building more tanks and bombs and planes and blah blah blah, we should be uniting to get the arse off this rock. Then america can have it all to themselves as this seems the way they want to go.
I'm sorry to the US people on here, I like you all, but your system and government laws have mutated beyond the perfect words you once protected into something far more evil and warmongering. And before you spit, you are not the only country on the planet that do this, China is rumbling like a volcano waiting for a fight, we don't know why, but it will happen, national defense means nothing, world defense and expansion should mean everything.

sorry to offend anyone. I unlike some posters am open to reason, so feel free to meet me at the middle gorund.

[DarthWoo]

Originally Posted by GunsOfBrixton29

What I'd like to know is, how come the ones that are complaining about this game don't complain about that games that are about fighting the Communist Russians?

My thoughts exactly. I can only imagine what kinds of games we'd have had if gaming technology as exists today had existed in the 60s and 70s.

[Afterburner]

Now I take offense that you belive we are trying to take over the world.

In the past 100 years I believe the only war we have fought over territory has been the Spanish-American war. And we gave the Fillipinos their freedom. The war in Iraq isn't over territory, neither was Vietnam or Desert Storm, or the Korean war or the war in Bosnia.

All of our wars from WWI onward have been about 1 of 4 things.

Preserving democracy in an already free state, stoping the spread of Communism, for our own saftey(albeit we now know there wasn't a threat) or to stop a humanitarian crisis.

I'll leave off with a sobering quote.

"Only the dead have seen the end of the war." - Plato

[Komrad_B]

Originally Posted by <StG>Nighthawk

Now I take offense that you belive we are trying to take over the world.

In the past 100 years I believe the only war we have fought over territory has been the Spanish-American war. And we gave the Fillipinos their freedom. The war in Iraq isn't over territory, neither was Vietnam or Desert Storm, or the Korean war or the war in Bosnia.

All of our wars from WWI onward have been about 1 of 4 things.

Preserving democracy in an already free state, stoping the spread of Communism, for our own saftey(albeit we now know there wasn't a threat) or to stop a humanitarian crisis.

I'll leave off with a sobering quote.

Yeah your country should be sanctified :lol:

Territory is nothing today. Power comes from economy and diplomatic control. By aiding people, you know they'll be forced to be your bitches for the years to come, and this is the sole reasons why your government helps them (and not only your governement, look at how many people are angry at the french because they won't help you in a war they don't support ). Look at Irak, its in the middle of the middle east, it is filled with oil and it has borders with increasingly unstable Saudi Arabia, Iran and Syria. All countries that are potentially hostile. The fact that Iraquis were living under a dictatorship (a situation billions of humans endure each day) meant nothing for your government. The furthering of your country's national interest was, and will always be what will count. It is the same for every country, you just need to admit it. During the cold war communism was "evil" because it was a menace, not a menace to the free world, but a menace to your national interests.