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ANZACSAS September 4th, 2005 09:43 PM

Re: The Chinese are making a game called "Anti-Japan War Online"
 
i just dont see how a game call make people hate aother countrey i mean look at the PS2 game call Americans 10 most wanted it dosent make me hate any one elsehttp://imagestore.prismdirect.co.uk/...x250/t0298.jpg

oscar989 September 4th, 2005 09:45 PM

Re: The Chinese are making a game called "Anti-Japan War Online"
 
well thats cuz americas ten most wanted are people the world doesnt care if they die.

ANZACSAS September 4th, 2005 09:51 PM

Re: The Chinese are making a game called "Anti-Japan War Online"
 
most of the people are middle esten so people could say it is sperding hate to the middle esten people

Dios September 5th, 2005 12:25 PM

Re: The Chinese are making a game called "Anti-Japan War Online"
 
We all know at least part of what the Nazi Germans and the Japanese did. But all sides commited atrocities at one time or the other.
Russia invaded Poland at the same time Nazi Germany did.
The USA dropped their nukes over two Japanese cities as if they lacked military targets to attack first.
The British bombed the city of Dresden while it was almost completely undefended (German fighters landed with no fuel supply, no AA artillery, almost no ground forces).
Etc. etc.

So imagine a pacific map for BF called "Shoot Down the USA Pilots", even if the USA had chances to win the map, I think the feeling wouldn't be too different from this chinese Anti-Japan shit. The name is very important, and yeah, it's only a game, but when games are biased like this they are good for nothing. The world is full of idiots, and it's no good to make idiots get too excited with silly territorialism, even if it's just a game.

And that America's 10 Most Wanted crap isn't the ten most wanted american criminals, it's the ten most wanted non-caucasian criminals, subtle but big difference.

Kakoru September 5th, 2005 12:55 PM

Re: The Chinese are making a game called "Anti-Japan War Online"
 
Quote:

The USA dropped their nukes over two Japanese cities as if they lacked military targets to attack first.
The British bombed the city of Dresden while it was almost completely undefended (German fighters landed with no fuel supply, no AA artillery, almost no ground forces).
Etc. etc.
You shouldn't claim these as atrocities...
I'm not sure why Russia invading Poland would be an atrocity either...but whatever.

Dios September 5th, 2005 04:01 PM

Re: The Chinese are making a game called "Anti-Japan War Online"
 
Oops, sorry, bad wording there, specially about Russia and Poland yeah, what I meant was that no side was nothing but goodness and disinterested actions.

Anyways, I won't take back the word atrocities from Hiroshima and Nagasaki nor Dresden, and I don't mean to be rude, but if you don't see why burning 100,000 persons to cinders in one second and making 100,000 more die irradiated, or bombing defenseless citizens as atrocities, then what would it take to use that word, soldiers eating raped babies sacrificed to Satan?

Kakoru September 5th, 2005 06:49 PM

Re: The Chinese are making a game called "Anti-Japan War Online"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dios
Anyways, I won't take back the word atrocities from Hiroshima and Nagasaki nor Dresden, and I don't mean to be rude, but if you don't see why burning 100,000 persons to cinders in one second and making 100,000 more die irradiated, or bombing defenseless citizens as atrocities, then what would it take to use that word, soldiers eating raped babies sacrificed to Satan?

I got tired of those controversies but here's a few thread you can look at:

For the Atomic Bomb:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...c+bomb&start=0

For Dresden:
Military Targets
USAF Historical Analysis of the 14-15 February 1945 Bombings of Dresden
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=304620#304620
Surface and subterranean petroleum, oil and lubricant facilities in the Dresden area
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=395916#395916
"Undefended city"
flak defenses of Dresden
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=605942#605942
air defenses of Dresden
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=611088#611088
War crimes and Dresden
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=611088#611088
review of Dresden arguments
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=606684#606684
why it wasn't a war crime
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=608671#608671
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=608983#608983

For extensive discussions of this subject, see (among other threads):

Dresden bombing & post-liberation Euro gas chambers
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=33480
Can the bombing of cities be considered as "Warcrimes"?
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=9136
Dresden 1945
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=1000
Dresden 1945
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=4838
Bombing of Dresden
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=20370
Destruction of Dresden
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=43901
Dresden photos
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=27506
Churchill & Harris Terror Raids
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=29691
Debate over UK WWII strategic bombing
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=25898
Terror bombing -- The Nazis started it
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=25592
US Strategic Bombing Survey (Europe) on bombing accuracy
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=395939#395939
Carpet-bombing towns and cities
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=44286
Dresden Bombing 14-15 Feb 1945 Questions
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=67776

jumjum September 5th, 2005 08:06 PM

Re: The Chinese are making a game called "Anti-Japan War Online"
 
You folks missed the point. For all it's new market explosion, China remains a completely totalitarian government, and is NOT a free society by any stretch of the imagination. Don't be fooled by a little social loosening up, NOTHING happens in China that is not known or approved by the hardline Marxist/Maoist regime or their apparatchiks.There is no true free market or competition, it just looks that way because the bosses have allowed it. So the game was not created in an open, competitve market by entrepreneurs who think they have a cool idea that Chinese gamers (there's a near-oxymoron!) will love. Instead, they were allowed to put out the game, so long as it had the Oficially Approved Historical Line. Thus the demonizing. Not this "when-are-nationalists-gonna-learn" Star Federation kumbaya crap.

Now, that said, it WOULD be hard to exaggerate how brutal and savage the Japanese were in China. As badly and criminally as the Western prisoners were treated, there was no comparison to how all non-Japanese Asians were treated by Nippon.

And the galling thing is the Japanese, even today, officially act like nothing happened. Geez, at least the Germans have at least pretended to admit their guilt in empowering Hitler and permitting him to commit genocide and force a world into war.

jumjum September 5th, 2005 08:26 PM

Re: The Chinese are making a game called "Anti-Japan War Online"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oscar989
guys lets not forget that EVERY country involved in WW2 did some kind of war crime.

WTF!? Who the hell is teaching you people? Do you truly think you get any wisp of the truth from something like "A People's HistoryOf The United States" ?

There were only two countries in WW2 that made war of unprovoked aggression, and systemized rapine, looting and killing of civilians A MATTER OF NATIONAL POLICY: Germany and Japan (an argument could be made for the USSR to be included with the state-sponsored and endorsed brutalitry to civilians; and also that Japan didn 't make outright genocide an actual goal, but they did see themselves as racial "supermen"). Do you truly see no distinction in numbers of atrocities commited or innocent persons victimized? Can you truly not distinguish individual acts of atrocity from systenized programs? There is no comparison, so let;s stop with the "we're all guilty" postmodernist tripe and start thinking clearly.

Artie Bucco September 5th, 2005 09:02 PM

Re: The Chinese are making a game called "Anti-Japan War Online"
 
I would like to bring up that in China the War is known as.

Chinese People's Anti-Japanese War of Resistanc
Anti-Japanese War of Resistance
War of Resistance
Eight Years' War of Resistance


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