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Comrade0Red November 24th, 2004 02:27 PM

Re: PPsh 41 WTF ? N00b Americanz
 
He's accompanied by the one with the M-16 incase the Iraqis find out their little game. Then the Marine is gunna want someone to back him up.

MkH^ November 24th, 2004 02:34 PM

Re: PPsh 41 WTF ? N00b Americanz
 
That looks pretty real to me, with the reflections, shades and all that. Maybe he thought it would be good against Iraqi resistance fighters with very little protection against any kind of armament? Could it be more reliable too? Don't know.

Comrade0Red November 24th, 2004 02:36 PM

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It's reliable, but heavy, I already listed the Reason why. Seals usually use Aks, Spetsnaz against americans would use M-16s. Mossad would use AKs against it's enemies. You don't want to draw attention where it's not wanted.

Artie Bucco November 24th, 2004 02:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Comrade0Red
It's reliable, but heavy, I already listed the Reason why. Seals usually use Aks, Spetsnaz against americans would use M-16s. Mossad would use AKs against it's enemies. You don't want to draw attention where it's not wanted.

the guy is not special forces however.

TheWharGoul November 24th, 2004 02:46 PM

Re: PPsh 41 WTF ? N00b Americanz
 
Personaly. I would use the PPSh.. just because that is awesome.

Comrade0Red November 24th, 2004 02:46 PM

Re: PPsh 41 WTF ? N00b Americanz
 
"Special Forces" is taken really out of context. Special forces RARELY are used like in the movies. Usually they sort things out with the locals, organizing them and trying to cause local resistance. Special forces are just that, "Specialized Forces". There are even special forces who's special ops is to help make sure the locals know how to farm, so they can feed their resistance. He is clearing a building, and in combat like that it's always good to be flexible and let the head guy...number one clear.
Usually squad is set up like this for clearing.
1= Monkey Man. He usually has a pistol for police or SMG for the army. Israeli ones have Assault rifles usually.
2=Monkey Man, simmilar to number one, but can also be demolitions, electrics. (i'm not talking rainbow six, but he carries the gear.) He often also carries a shot gun for police.
3=1's back up. Usually has Shot gun for police or assault rifle for army. His job is to keep number one alive.
4= 2's cover man, gotta keep two alive.
5,6,7,8 are usually extra people that do extra job. Spotter, external communication. Every squad works differant but this is a common set up.

Monkey men are usually little and need to be able to handle pretty much anything. If a sniper is involved he is usually number 3 or 5, but this is rare.

[CoUk]niu November 24th, 2004 02:48 PM

Re: PPsh 41 WTF ? N00b Americanz
 
So what if someone wears Kevlar? Just spray in the general area of the head,900 rpm in cqb must be like a swarm of very big buckshot.

Insane1 November 24th, 2004 02:48 PM

Re: PPsh 41 WTF ? N00b Americanz
 
no getty doesnt photoshop pics
ppsh41 would be pretty effective in room clearing 900rpm rather then the m16 burst
mp5's and m4's are issued to sf not the basic marine infantrymen
you can see marines with other captured weapons also like ak47's
you just dont leave weapons lying around for the insurgents just to pick up and you also have a back up weapon

Comrade0Red November 24th, 2004 02:54 PM

Re: PPsh 41 WTF ? N00b Americanz
 
I disagree..PPSH wouldn't be used for room clearing or the americans would have copied it. I think the reason I stated before was probably correct. Usually dumped enemy weapons are left, because it's too dangerous to go get them. Another alternative is to shoot them.

Artie Bucco November 24th, 2004 03:03 PM

Re: PPsh 41 WTF ? N00b Americanz
 
The guys is from a light armored recon company so if he was riding in a vehicle it is possible that the soldier was only issued a pistol and decided to use the ppsh 41 feeling that the protection provided by his pistol was inadequate.


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