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USMA2010 November 30th, 2004 05:55 PM
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Yeah, the designs may be similar, but not the same gun. MG3 and MG42 are similar in many ways, but definatly not the same weapon. Ditto for the AK47 and AK74.

Artie Bucco November 30th, 2004 07:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by [11PzG] USMA2010
Yeah, the designs may be similar, but not the same gun. MG3 and MG42 are similar in many ways, but definatly not the same weapon. Ditto for the AK47 and AK74.

other than the MG 3 being chambered in .308 there is not much diffrence to the MG 42.
The only other weapon, produced in large numbers, that used MG-42 roller locking, is a Czech-made vz.52 pistol, not to mention the MG-3 machine gun, which, in this respect, is the same as MG-42.

Von Mudra November 30th, 2004 07:53 PM
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Actually, many countries, Spain for one, use the ORIGINAL MG42. Also, COmrade, I have talked with US soldiers in Frankfurt Ariport. Nomatter what you think, one they pick up the guns regularly, one guys siad he had his issue M4, and AK, and a SKS rifle! THere is no logistics nightmare, as you just fire until you run out of ammo, and then you either find more ammo, or you just throw the gun away!

Gocad November 30th, 2004 10:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Von Mudra
Actually, many countries, Spain for one, use the ORIGINAL MG42.
No, they don't.

The ORIGINIAL MG42 uses the 7.92x57mm round. :p

Spain uses modified MG42s.

The main difference between the MG42 and MG3 is that the MG3 has a reduced ROF.

Mazz December 1st, 2004 09:45 PM
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The MG3/MG42 is still held as the fastest firing Machine gun to date which means its ROF wasn't reduced by much. Miniguns and the Vulcan series are not considered to be in the same category.

Von Mudra December 2nd, 2004 11:16 PM
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NOpe, I am dead serious, Not the MG3, but the good old WW2 MG42. I have a pic of it in a book on small arms.

Gocad December 3rd, 2004 06:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Von Mudra
NOpe, I am dead serious, Not the MG3, but the good old WW2 MG42. I have a pic of it in a book on small arms.
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These MG42s are not ORIGINALS in so far that they have been modified, mainly to accept a different caliber (usually 7.62x51mm) . Even the Bundeswehr used those modified MG42s (but they were then called MG1).

Von Mudra December 3rd, 2004 11:23 PM
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OK, I thought you thought that I had mistaken it for MG42. Ok.

Comrade0Red December 4th, 2004 06:38 PM
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Von Mudra, stop watching james bond.

Von Mudra December 5th, 2004 02:15 PM
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What?:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:


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