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Just bought a M91/30... I just bought a vintage 1942 Mosin Nagant m91/30 for 109$ from a local sporting goods store. It was just sitting in the case gathering dust and I felt sorry for it. Some poor russian chap probably prayed over that thing while being shot at by the Germans, a piece of history that shaped the face of the world sitting next to some low quality Saiga rippoffs and semi-auto AK variants that only crazed southern militiamen would want, right next to the pellet gun section. Anyways, the rifle is 62 years old. I get a box of 7.62x54mm ammo free with the purchase (the last one they had), so I take it directly out to the range and load 5 rounds into it. I fire off all 5, hitting within millimeters of my target each time. I repeat with another 5, with the same results. The shells were ejected fine, loaded fine, and there was no accuracy deviation that I could see. A fellow shooter at the range, with a brand new Winchester model 70 (30.06 I think) had come over to see how my shooting was and noted that his out-of-the-box mint new 70 had misfired 4 times out of 10 shots and was less accurate then the Mosin (though it may have been user error :naughty: ). I just thought that was funny, he paid around 700$ for a brand new rifle that was of poor quality, I paid 100$ for an antique that still worked great. Im going to clean and thoroughly examine the rifle tonight, see if I need to get anything replaced or fixed, though I probably should have done that before firing it. The 7.62x54r ammunition is a pain in the ass to get as well, it was by chance that the sporting goods store had a box. I'll get some pics of my new baby up here as soon as my camera decides to work again. The lacquer is still pristine (may have been re-lacquered or re-finished, I don't know), the sights aren't worn or anything. There's a few scratches and dents on the body, but other then that it looks as new as a rifle designed in 1891 can look. If anyone has any advice or things to know about older guns, I'd appreciate the info. This is the first old gun I've bought, not the last though. The store had a No.5 Jungle carbine (somewhat rare) as well for 500$, but it was pretty busted up and didn't look safe to shoot. I'm going to look into that later. |
Re: Just bought a M91/30... Sounds great, you should take some pictures of it and post them here... |
Re: Just bought a M91/30... As soon as my camera decides to work under Windows 2000 I will. I'll even put you all to shame with pics of my 125 meter marksman targets. |
Re: Just bought a M91/30... Nice... Evil Turnip just bought a nagant a week or two ago. Also used in the war. Evil pumpkin bought himself a k98. I want to buy me a mas36 :D Then we can all goto the range and have us some fun. |
Re: Just bought a M91/30... The nice thing about those types of military rifles is that if you're not a hard core collector you can usually pick up a good shooter pretty cheap at gun shows and other places. My goal is to have a primary service rifle for each of the major combatants in WWII. So far I've got a Garand and an M1 Carbine. For any US citizens out there, I highly recommend picking up a Garand (and other service rifles) through the Civilian Marksmanship Program. Check out www.odcmp.com for more details. Also, if you're interested in a nice Mauser (post-WWII era, but still a shooter) check out ww.mitchellsales.com. They have some beautiful rifles. |
Re: Just bought a M91/30... my grandfather picked up a couple of Arasaka type 90's from a destrution pile before he came home, he gave the wrong one away, he grabed a standard issue, and a sniper riffle, the sniper riffle is no where to be found, but my dad has the standard at a gunshop getting put back into working order, there is one company left that produces ammo for it, a little over 2$ a shell, i cant wait to bring her to the range and give her a few. should be ready any time now.. good find for you as well, i love exercising my second amendment rights :) |
Re: Just bought a M91/30... I've thought that the Arisaka would be the hardest to come by of the entire group. |
Re: Just bought a M91/30... That is if you would even want to comeby it |
Re: Just bought a M91/30... When i went to the gun store in town they had: 10 M44's 1 M91 3 M1 Garands 1 MAS36 3 type 90's He sayed that the 90's shoot ok and that the MAS almost blew up in his face |
Re: Just bought a M91/30... god i wanted 1 !!!! |
Re: Just bought a M91/30... Every year there's a big gun show in my area. It's a fun thing to go to if you're into old rifles and don't mind people trying to recruit you into various militias or trying to convince you that the South never really lost the American Civil War. That's what I get for living in South Carolina, though. The sellers normally have plenty of SKSs, Saiga ripoffs, semi-auto AK variants, sport shooters, shotguns, etc but the main reason I go is that they have plenty of WWII rifles. Some guy comes every year and sets up a table full of arisakas that he's trying to sell. I've looked them over but I can't bring myself to be interested in a rifle that I'd be afraid to fire. At the beginning of the summer I bought an M1 Garand from someone at the gun show. It shoots great; I managed to hit an entire clip in a pretty small area at 100 yards. Plus it uses 30.06 which is pretty common, unlike the 8mm rounds I need for my K98 (it's either pay $1 American per bullet for commercial rounds or try to find surplus). If you really can't find ammo then try www.gunbroker.com. It's like the firearms version of ebay. I got 700 rounds of 8mm ammo for $60, which is insane considering commercial rounds are about $1 per round and even surplus ammo will cost about 25 cents per shot. My friend is in the market for an M91/30 sniper, which is pretty rare; even finding a completely original M91/30 sniper is lucky, not to mention being able to afford the one you find. While standard rifles were constantly supplied by the factories sniper rifles had to be ordered individually, and the stock had to be cut differently to fit the scope mount screws and a curved bolt handle had to be installed to replace the straight bolt handle; converting an M91/30 into an M91/30 sniper is a factory-type job. A standard M91/30 is a nice rifle though, though one that I haven't had an opportunity to fire. |
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Re: Just bought a M91/30... I'd like to thank people for pointing me in the direction of 7.62mmx54mmR, which it turns hour means rimless. I will be using www.gunbroker.com to find proper ammo for rare guns. |
Re: Just bought a M91/30... You lucky guys :( If i'll ever have a chance to own a gun..i will look for a G43 |
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Re: Just bought a M91/30... I've never even seen a MAS36, but if one could be found that wasn't hazardous to your health, I would be all about it. And I'm not surprised those Arisakas are dangerous, they were dangerous when they were made in 44. Also I've noticed a lot more M44s then M91s sitting around. The Cleveland International Gun Something or Something show is coming in August, so I'm getting on top of that. You can get a box of 20 rounds of 7.62x54R for 14.99$ from Winchester direct, which is pretty steep, but it's new ammo and won't misfire. Still looking for some surplus. |
Re: Just bought a M91/30... lucky bastard. ;) have fun with it man. |
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