AMD vrs. Pentium
 

Hey guys-
I haven't been on the forums that much lately but I want to know: which is better: Amd or pentium. I need a straight forward answer considering I'm getting a new computer this Summer. Thanks :).

EDIT: I have come to the conclusion that Intel is better. The new Extreme edition outperforms all :). Configing a vicious pc as I type.

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Soooo..there's no point for this tread to be here?

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AMD coz their CHEAP!!!!! ;)

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its like asking a bunch of Hooligans what team they think is the best ...

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english hooligans for that matter

*anyone see the news, england havnt even played a game and thier hooligans are already running a muck in lisbon :/*

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AMD: you get more for your money.

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I voted AMD and here's why.

1)AMD is usually cheaper. If you have the money and want Intel there is nothing wrong with their stuff either. I have 2 x AMD systems and 1 x P4 system at home and they all run just fine. With the money I save by building a AMD system,I can put that significant savings into a better graphics card.

2)Even if AMD made crap they are still usefull to have around. Without AMD around as a competitor, Intel would have no reason to release new CPU's as often as they do and they would have no reason to sell them as cheap as they do.

3) I am a anarchist. I see Intel as the Hardware version of Microsoft. Everyday AMD does well is a victory against the Evil Overlords...LONG LIVE THE RESISTANCE!!!

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VIVA LA RESITIENCE.

our new leader Anlushac Guevara will guide us to victory over the capitalist pigdogs




(yeah yeah, its late at night)

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Yeah,this thread is useless. Tom's Hardware Guide has a review on them; I'll post a link soon.

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Well I vote for Pentium cause thats what I have.

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Hasta la Victoria Pentium!

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Of course AMD.

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http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/200...lon_64-22.html
Benchmarks; although, amd does ebtter with dx9 but pentium wins all the others

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http://www.gamestar.de/hardware/prozessorindex/
It's in German, but easy enough to understand :) And it isn't from last September, as your article seems to be.

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In other words AMD is the best cpu for gamingrigs?

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Pentium for me.

I can't be arsed to keep up with all the AMD buzzwords. You know exactly what your getting with a Pentium.

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My sentiments exactly. I hate how the AMD processors use all that "2800 Q4 zebra version" stuff in the names. I prefer the straight out "P4 3.2 Ghz" name

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I agree with faction recon, I though the AMD 3200 meant it was 3.2 ghz; it was 2.4 ghz which is stupid.

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i call that a cheap trick to make a processor look better ;)

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Yet still it performes nearly just as good as a Pentium 4 with 3.2 Ghz.

Just read the benchmarks. They speak the truth.

http://www.gamestar.de/hardware/prozessorindex/

Best CPU out there: AMD Athlon 64 FX-53 820 Euros (160 cheaper than Pentiums high end machine, and quite a bit faster, even in 32-bit mode).

Best CPU for 400 bucks: Very close one, but Athlon 64-3400+ is slightly cheaper than Pentiums 3.4 Ghz, so it wins.

Best CPU for 300 bucks: dito, although this is pretty much a PAR.

Best CPU for 200 bucks: Athlon 64/3000+ owns that pricerange and is even significantly faster than the more expensive Pentiums.

Best CPU for 100 bucks: Pentiums has nothing to really to offer at this pricerange. But even the CPUs around 140 bucks are easily beaten by the 100 bucks AMD modells.

Ergo: AMD wins all, except for one paar. But you Ignorents just go ahead buying your Intel...

And btw, as soon as Microsoft brings out a 64-bit version of Windows, all 64-bit systems out there will recieve a boost of around 30%, which will leave Pntium way behind.
If you still believe Pentium is better than AMD, then that just shows how little you know about PC Hardware...

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Damn it. I dont know what to buy...

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You have to decide anyway yourself and you won't find an unbiased advice here :)
Just look for the things that are interesting for you:
-how expensive is the CPU
-how fast is the CPU (you can find benchmakrs with google)

If you go after that AMD is the CPU of choice for you.

And if you look at benchmakrs, don't forget that you won't notice a difference of 2 or 3 FPS while playing a game.

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For me, I'm getting a whole rig not just a processor so I also have to take into mind which processor works best in conjuction with the best comp parts.

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traditionally you knew exactely what you got with Intel, not with AMD. It's like comparing Aeroflot with Lingus Air.
I've seen enough T-Birds go to CPU heaven.
around a year ago there was really no contest unless you built a low-end cheapass system. the price/performance ratio was strangely enough better with the P4 than with the trusty old K7(atleast when you were going to build a system with some serious bang). A Northwood 2.6 ghz with 800 mhz FSB was actually comparable to an XP3200+(Barton) in sheer performance and alot cheaper(where I lived atleast).

judging a CPUs power by clockrate alone is stupid, but the AMD system for marketing is a complete joke. The only time when the PR-rating was comparable to a P4 was when the first Northwood was launched at 1.8 Ghz(mainly because it was "calibrated" to match the Northwood, before that an AMD was faster than the a "comparable"(PR-rating wise) P4). Since then the improvements on the P4 has been far greater than the improvements on the K7, so the PR-rating became totally invalid. It may have been correct if you simply compared it to earlier CPUs from AMD. But they just didn't have the same leap in performance as the P4 experienced with things like going from 400 to 1066 mhz FSBs, HT and so on. the leap from 1.8 ghz to 3.0 ghz on the P4 was far greater than the leap from XP1800+ to XP3000+.

Since the K8, it's mainly a toss-up. But I recommend AMD, because Intel is the big bad capitalist monopoly corporation. Be a commie, buy AMD!

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In that case it's important to have a good motherboard and the right RAM.
As for all this CPU-stuff. AMD and Pentium offer you more or less the same speed, and that, regardless what others may say, is what it is all about if you want to buy a CPU. The development of the last months/years are not so important for you :).
Just look at a benchmark, decide how much you want to spend and take the CPU that offers the best FPS for your money.
If you are a fan of some game that hasn't been released yet it would make sense to check in the internet if your CPU has enough power for it.

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Versatility is more important than sheer clock speed. I want a processor that will fit in a motherboard which has all my desired features. Things such as disk interfaces, RAM capacity and expantion slots are a lot more important than the fastest processor.

I build my own home PCs and tend to buy industry standard components (Asus motherboards, Pentium CPU's, Kingston RAM, Adaptec disk controllers, Plextor devices, 3Com NICS, Fuji or WD disks). I build a well balanced system with components which are easy to integrate and support. As a result of this, I rarely spend time troubleshooting problems.

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I also heard that Pentium has a longer life time than AMD.

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AMD runs with a higher temp thats why ...

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If you get decent cooling it's fine. I used several AMD CPUs over the last years and never had problems with lifetime.
The probability that you will buy a new CPU before your old one ceases to work is rather high anyway :)

Edit:

"Versatility is more important than sheer clock speed. I want a processor that will fit in a motherboard which has all my desired features."

There are excellent mobos for AMD as well as for Pentium CPUs, as far as I know.

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I found some great AMD 64 and Pentium Extreme systems on Ebay's buy it now page for awesome prices. Theres a 1,399 p4 extreme edition system,1 gig DDR, 120 g hd, and sapphire radeon 9800 pro 128 mb on there. I have to wait for the money though :(.

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You can post some links of systems that interest you here :)

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...101576037&rd=1 thats not bad price and its from a power seller. Theres an AMD 64 3400+ system somewhere there too for $999.

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Lately, I went through a TON of benchmarks about the latest AMD vs. the lastest Intel and to give everyone a summarized version of the results:

On almost all benchmarks, the AMD performed slightly (and I do mean slightly) better than the Intel, however whenever the few times that there was a benchmark of a program that took advantage of Hyper-threading (and yes, apparently there are some) or of multi-tasking, Intel conquered.


So, the end result is that if you're running one giant program (FH for example), AMD will beat Intel, but if you plan on multi-tasking or logging on as many users at once then Intel is the better choice. It's really all about how you plan to use your computer.
One thing to keep in mind is that the AMD chip is cheaper than the Intel chip, though if you can afford either of these chips, that gap in price really won't matter.

BTW on that note, if there are any very rich people that want the best of both worlds, you could always have dual AMD proccessors:naughty: And, if you're that rich, you can buy me one too!:D

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AMD Athlon 2800+ XP. I love it to death.

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Actually Athlon 64 is significantly cooler than than P4 prescott or even P4 northwood..
Athlons were hot two years back, remember palominos and thunderbirds..

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AMD 64 are cooler and nead less eletrixity than modern Pentoum CPUs. And buy the way, Pentium is also just changing their CPU rating to match that of AMD. So you´ll no longer have a real performance indication, but will have to put up with names like Pentium 4-560.

And all these benchmarks you see nowadays, prove that AMD has faster and more efficient CPUs. And these don´t take the 64-bit advanatge into account.
Sp don´t forget that ALL 64-bit CPUs will get a 20-30% speed-boost once Windows 64 is released and other software is adapted.
So really, nothing at this stage, should make you want to buy a Pentium system...

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I like AMD...:) I have an AMD btw.

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I found an AMD athlon xp 3200+ with 200 gbhd, 512 ddr, and 8x agp nvidia fx card for 800(special custom price) and the same thing except p4 3.2 ghz with HT tech for about the same price. I read that the p4 3.2 outclasses the amd. I need your help!

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Vote pentium.

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I'd go for AMD. Just go to a decent site about hardware and look how much FPS you get with which CPU. If people say Pentium outclasses AMD they usually mean that it's like 2 FPS faster. Of course you don't notice such little differences in FPS, but you notice difference in money you have to spend. Most of the time you get more FPS/Dollar with AMD.

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AMD all the way!

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INTEL ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!! Intel means something like inteliegince.

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roflol

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Im starting to agree because won't a 64 bit be better for the future? When windows 64(or if windows releases a special program) that uses the 64 bit tech?

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Well in my opinion the P4 hyper threaded is for serious heavy duty work. Its like a race car. If you have a drag car that runs on an alcohol based fuel to give it its super high performance, and you give it petrol and a regular stock car beats it then thats to be expected. The AMD was designed to work for the people with less cash flow and less hardware parts. My computer is a p4 3.0Ghz HT. Physicaly it is ONE processor. Logicaly to your BIOS and your computer it is TWO processors working together. 32x2=64. The P4HT is alrdy LOGICALY running at 64 bits. Also your system hardware specs will logicaly register the processor as 6.0GHZ if you've built the comp right. To accomidate this massive processing hog you need the right equipment. A minimum of 2 gigs of DUAL, not regular but Dual linked DDR ram at your boards maximum Mhz. Also 2x SATA 10,000 RPM Raid (0) hard drives. With this setup that I have plus my Asus GeForce 5700 FX Ultra with 256mb of Dual DDR ram, everything runs like a dream. There is no lag with the maximum video settings and sound settings. Also map load time is down to at least 4 seconds and at most 12. Id say the only real problem is that I had to buy a new case with more fan ports because the overheating of the hard drive platters caused the harddrives to slow for a moment and creat some framerate loss. Once they where properly cooled it ran fine. Im pretty sure that when those benchmarks where made they wern't using the P4 to its fullest extent like it should be to show off its power.

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Exactly, hyperthreading is nice and all, but with a new version of windows the Athlon 64 CPUs will perform better. And even now the difference is not so big. Get an AMD and invest the saved money in a better gfx-card.
And don't forget that, as Tank Hunter said, the other hardware is also very important. The main reason why AMD still has a bad reputation with some people is that some years ago motherboards for those CPUs were not very stable.
But now you can get very good mobos, and you should spend some thought which you will take.

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Wait a minute, I was just reading that intel Prescott's have 64 bit in it. A new program coming out will turn the 64 bitting on.

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Forget it,I'll just wait for money and get an athlon fx...

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A wise choice.

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remeber that FXs need *registered* ram, normal ram won't work. Registered ram is kind of rare and more expensive then normal ram. I like intel better, they are better overclockers, everytime i upped 5 mhz in an AMD it would die. Intel 1.8 ghz has not died yet (it runs at 2.3ghz) Overclockers4ever!