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BUGS]FHMod[ December 3rd, 2004 05:10 AM

Custom Maps wanted
 
I am currently adding custom maps to the new homepage. If you know a map that MUST not be missing there...

Add a reply to the topic including:

- name
- scenario
- year it plays
- armies fighting each other
- created by
- creator's email
- short description
- minimap image 512x512 (jpg) and 300x300 (jpg)
- loadingscreen 800x600 (jpg) and 300x225 (jpg)
- screenshots ("hud 0") 800x600 (jpg) and 180x135 (gif)
- downloadlinks

If the map contains BF:V, RtR or SWoWWII stuff - plz write a special note.

For sure you might send me an email to bugs@darkobi.com. If you do so: Reply here with the name of the map so my mailbox won't be spammed ;)

Kingrudolf December 3rd, 2004 07:06 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
Just a general question that might apply to more people.

I'm not really sure what this is about. I thought the fan mappack was supposed to cover this. You guys are always so vague at requests! What is this new "homepage"? And I notice download links need to be included. Are you aiming for maps from different mods as well? Or do they just need to be uploaded to a FTP or something (instead of public)?

BUGS]FHMod[ December 3rd, 2004 07:30 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
Ok - as you might have noticed our current homepage is not that up to date on some parts. Custommaps were only supported with Fanmappack #1 so far.

We would like to change that. The support we can give all the custommappers out there is to give them the chance to present their FH fanmap on our page.

Maybe that way more people will try to download custom maps or better they will know where to get them and the more ppl have them the more they might be played.

And what Fanmappacks shall cover: Well - the most nicely considered maps will be included there - the chance to get those maps played is bigger for sure because ppl love packs more than single maps. Anyway...

Thatfore I need the information I requested above: A new section on the homepage featuring FH custommaps.

Kingrudolf December 3rd, 2004 07:47 AM

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Initially a good idea, but the downside is, the maps are going to be presented seperately. So suddenly I get disconnected from a server because it says "map not found". I try another server, and would get the same message. This is just an example of what would happen; if servers would bother to download custom maps (obviously not all servers download the same), it would get real messy, from the way I see it it wouldn't work.

Basically, this way I would be forced to download all the custom maps, "in case" a server might have one of these installed. Now I totally appreciate the fan mapping support, because both partys benefit from this, but, after two years of BF we all know seperate maps are ever hardly played. It needs to be official. Else no one will want to, or bother to download the map. I remember many fine maps posted oin BF42.com, but they were quickly forgotten because it was a single download.

Honestly, I'd much rather like to see all the maps made by fans, reviewed, and prepared for adoption into the FH mod. People don't like the sound of "Fan mappack", because it has a bad history, giving it a bad name. And if maps are really good by themselves, they would probably be adopted into the mod itself anyway. ...right? I would even volunteer to "review" the maps, without my vote being the final answer.

I hope you understand what I'm saying, but especially hope you can find a point in what I'm saying.

BUGS]FHMod[ December 3rd, 2004 08:00 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
I know the problem.

And I know ppl don't really bother about single maps when they have to search for ages. And serveradmins do not want them in when their server is empty suddenly.

Well - I played many, many online games. CS custommaps were played much, Quake III is a good example too.

There was quake3maps.com - if you did not have a map you went there, downloaded it of one of the 10 mirrors and that's it... was an really easy one and you were in game again 3 mins later feeling happy everyone else did same and you could be able to check out a new map. No problems - I had more then 5 GB of maps (and quakemaps are not really big in filesize).

I think it's simply not possible to include even more and more maps to the FH release. As you might have noticed we removed several maps for 0.65 because otherwise the installer will have 20 GB in half a year *exaggerating*
And as you might know really good custommaps find their way into the release (Outskirts - a lil laggy but always fun wasn't it ;) ). And what to do with all the other maps that play ok but don't get in because we don't want to have a 5GB installer? Well - Fanmappack is one possibility - call it additional mappack if you like ;)
And another is a good single map support if you don't want to release one mappack a month. Or you just say: Sorry man - you wasted your time...

And for the servers - FtN has several servers - I think there will always be servers that keep the "official only" way - while other servers could be used for custom maps as well (as FtN does with some single maps sometimes and it works good because they really promote the download for that maps).

So - this kind of support is best I can do besides additional mappacks or even the integration into the mod for some maps only.

Kingrudolf December 3rd, 2004 08:18 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
I suppose we'll have to see how it works out. You might have to keep checking up on that new page though, where would I download that map if the links are broken? I think the best reliable download links would be BF1942files.com, since it doesn't require a registration, doesn't have ridiculous download times, and the site doesn't seem to be down often.

Still, I'd prefer having the maps in one package; maybe you could even make a monthly map update, like every four weeks a new package is up for grabs (or two months), it would also keep the mod going and please the public continuously. As for large file downloads; didn't FH have seperate map download packages anyway? Worked perfectly if you ask me. I'm still convinced that full downloads attract more attention, give less complications, and being able to look forward to something would be more appealing.

This way you can also assort the maps, making sure good maps are played, instead of servers having to "experiment" to see if a map is popular or not. And I know that many admins can't really tell wether a map is good (gameplay-looks-wise) or not.

I'm throwing around some suggestions here; I'd like the best for the mod as well.

Braun December 3rd, 2004 08:20 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
Maybe you could just make maps packs every month or something...whenever youve gathered enough Maps to make a quality map pack...that way every body gets new maps regurlarly and the servers if they have it wont have to worry abou being empty because everybody has the Map pack...

BUGS]FHMod[ December 3rd, 2004 08:32 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
And so do I.

I guess fanmappacks will be around more often from now on. Not with a contest each time I think and for sure I can't tell anything about the frequency because it depends on how many maps are sent in and which quality they have.

Well - we will see. But we made the first step and hope to get it working :)

So - if you like you might start with suggesting some maps...

Anlushac11 December 5th, 2004 10:29 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
Its too bad you guys couldnt develop a auto map loading program like Tribes 2 maps.com had.

It was one site that had all the maps for tribes 2 and if you didnt have the map but had the auto installer installed if server rotated to a map you didnt have it would autoconnect to tribes 2 maps and d/l and install the map and with broadband you were in game and playing in minutes.

Nechre December 5th, 2004 10:33 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
Except tribes maps are not nearly as small as FH maps. FH maps are anywhere from 6mb-100mb a piece, which is crazy... I HATE RFAS! :mad:

BUGS]FHMod[ December 5th, 2004 11:41 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
UT2k4 allows download from the server... nice feature as well...

Anyway - for now I did not receive one single map here. No interest or just too lazy guys?

Civius December 5th, 2004 11:46 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
I guess people are first waiting for the results of the map contest?

Nechre December 5th, 2004 11:54 AM

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I have to make a new map, that's all Bugs... lol. :D

Flippy Warbear December 5th, 2004 12:40 PM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
A bit of off topic. But just slam words "Official Map Pack" for the side of the Fan mappack and it should appear on more servers. :p

Kingrudolf December 5th, 2004 02:32 PM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
Think it depends Bugs.. will there still be the idea of seperate custom maps? Or now in the form of mappacks? If so, please apply Warbear's suggestion. "Official FH mappack" sounds much more appealing to me. As for maps.. think most mappers are still finishing their maps, or already submitted them to the Fanmappack. I know mine still needs to be finished. It's just a temporary production gap, that's all.

BUGS]FHMod[ December 6th, 2004 12:57 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
Well - I have all the time.

Was just wondering - thought there should be some maps that have been finished before the contest and were not sent in.

Admiral Donutz December 6th, 2004 01:05 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
Patience bugsm i cant show you my map now, you will have to wait until mid 2005 :p

bbble December 6th, 2004 02:55 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
@Bugs: Well, since my map is submitted for the fan map pack...do I submit it again? Or wait for the fan map pack release?

BUGS]FHMod[ December 6th, 2004 01:41 PM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
Fanmappack mapsinformation can be sent in via Email ( bugs@darkobi.com ). And no need to send in the map - I only need the information I mentioned above. ;)

Kämpfer December 6th, 2004 02:00 PM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Großadmiral Dönitz
Patience bugsm i cant show you my map now, you will have to wait until mid 2005 :p

You know BF2 will be out by then? Unless you are exaggerating.

BUGS]FHMod[ December 9th, 2004 03:59 PM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
*pushing up*

BUGS]FHMod[ January 9th, 2005 03:21 PM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
*pushing up once more*

Lt. Havoc January 9th, 2005 03:51 PM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
e-mailing now sir! Havoc FH maps on their way!

taichi January 10th, 2005 02:46 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
so you want the info about the maps in the upcoming map pack as well?
If so, I'll send them when I get back from uni tonight.

BUGS]FHMod[ January 10th, 2005 04:27 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
Well - whatever I get ;)

Example would be:
- name: Oder River
- scenario: East Front
- year it plays: 1945
- armies fighting each other: Germany vs. Russia
- created by: otolikos
- creator's email: n/a
- short description

6 Flags to take for allies 5 to defend for axis.
Spawnable bridge over the Oder river to let Russian tanks to cross the river.
King tiger, is2 and planes are only usable by own team.

or something like that:
In spring of 1945 the Russian army shooed the Germans back to the Oder River, the last hurdle before Berlin. This map deals with the intense fighting to cross the river or blight the attempt depending on which side you choose to take part in the battle.

I think it does not need any explanation about the following ones:
- minimap image 512x512 (jpg) and 300x300 (jpg)
- loadingscreen 800x600 (jpg) and 300x225 (jpg)
- screenshots ("hud 0") 800x600 (jpg) and 180x135 (gif)
- downloadlinks -> Fragthe.net -> http://www.fragthe.net/dload.php?action=file&file_id=84

Lt. Havoc January 10th, 2005 04:46 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
I guess I misread the original thread but I did send an e-mail withall that information. Rather than post the same information for a 3rd time here's a link to a thread announcing our map-pack.

http://www.gamingforums.com/showthread.php?t=170379

contained in it is about 90% of the information asked. Sorry, I think you can cover scenario, armies, date and description all in 1 short statement. Unfortunately the I forgot to list my mother's maiden name... next time ;) .

Andrew_HK January 10th, 2005 05:39 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
i am also making a Operation Winterstorm map
which German Army Group Don try to assault into Stalingrad, safe the VI Army

but it is not yet finish, two control point and USSR Base....so i will wait for the next chance when FH will make map pack

taichi January 10th, 2005 07:56 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
ok, I sent you the info on Tali-Ihantala

BUGS]FHMod[ January 10th, 2005 11:51 AM

Re: Custom Maps wanted
 
Got it - thx!


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