Vista and FH1

[Lobo]

Ok, all of the following is for Forgotten Hope 0.7. I have tested the mod 2 times so far, using all game modes: Singleplayer: Campaign Mode, Singleplayer: Instant Battle, Multiplayer: Internet, Multiplayer: Create a Game. All mods worked without a glitch. My idea for you is that you could probably post this info on the FAQ page, with the question as following:
"FH0.7 crashes everytime I try to play it. I have done everything that was said to try and stop it from crashing, but it still crashes. I run it with Windows Vista. How can I solve this problem?"

So an answer would be like this:
If you have tried everything that was listed in this FAQ to solve problems of crashing, this is what you should do. Go to the properties of a thumbnail/shortcut of FH. Click the compatibility tab and check the "Run this program in compatibility mode for:" box. Select Windows 98/ME in the dropdown and then go down and also check the "Run this program as an administrator" box. Click OK and the mod should work from there.

You should also include something about "Do not run the mod in compatibility mode for any other OS, despite what blogs have said. This OS has worked and been tested."

Oh, and the FAQ answer of turning off Sound Hardware Accelerator on page 2 of sounds should be removed, sound hardware accelerator is by default unchecked, and so far, I haven't been able to check that box.

I have included a screenshot of how to execute the solution I said, just as something to show you and/or show to others. Please note that I ONLY have Battlefield 1942 and Vietnam, so I can't test this out for you with the Battlefield 2 Mod creator that you were saying you had problems with in Vista. And what you said about the recent Punkbuster update "royally screwing" multiplayer, that is false. It worked fine, just to let you know.

So in conclusion, this is just some research I did for you guys, just as a thanks for your help and the mod.
--
Admiral Chen (I'm gonna beat your record of playing 2 hours straight, lol)

[Sgt_garcia.fr]

Hi LOBO!

I come again to you and your comrades to explain this hard problem about FH for Bf1942 on Vista. I say sorry also for my very special English cause it's not my first language; excuse me for that; thank you very much.

1.First after many and many tests with my comrades (good players) on your best mod FH1.
We worked plenty of nights in this compatibility problems of FH1 mod on Vista OS.
I built a table and you can see now:


BF1942 AND MODS COMPATIBILITY TABLE ON VISTA SP1. (Last version).
BF1942 UND MODS UND SEINE KOMPATIBILITÄT TABELLE UNDER VISTA SP1.
BF1942 ET SES MODS ET TABLEAU DE COMPATIBILITE SOUS VISTA SP1.

In all conditions programme is executed as administrator. I suppose also all drivers are updated (graphic card; sounds card.....)
In allen Bedingungen Programm als Administrator ausgeführt wird. Ich nehme also (auch?) alle Treiber aktualisiert werden (Grafikkarte, Klänge Karte .....)
Dans tous les cas le programme est exécuté en tant qu'administrateur. Je suppose aussi que tous les pilotes sont à jour (carte graphique; carte sons.......)

See, Sehen, Voyez:



2. As you can see Punkbuster last version is not compatible with "windows 98 compatibility mod on Vista".
If a server on FH is running with punkbuster; we are kicked with message: " PUNKBUSTER KICKED PLAYER....(for 0 minutes)...RESTRICTION: SERVICE ABNORMALITY.

3. Before 2007 October we plaid (played,) without problem on Vista cause old punkbuster's version was compatible with "windows 98 compatibility mod on Vista".

4.Proof: If you install Bf42 and its patches and FH1 version 07 and all its maps and mappacks, you can play on server with Punkbuster, but after the update of Punkbuster you are automatically kicked, with the message which kills: " PUNKBUSTER KICKED PLAYER....(for 0 minutes)...RESTRICTION: SERVICE ABNORMALITY.

5.But you can see also in the table, you can play bf1942 mod battlegroup for example, with "WindowsXP SP2 compatibility mod on Vista". And with the latest punkbuster version!

6. Please why? What the fundamental differences between FH and Battlegroup 1942 about their files structure?

7. Nights and nights we compare battlegroup 1942's files with FH1's files; these mods are brothers I think!
I say again why battlegroup 1942 runs fine on Vista with "WindowsXP SP2 compatibility mod", but why it's no possible for FH1? Why please?

8. In these conditions can you please LOBO and your comrades build (make) a patch for FH1?
If you want help, we can, but can you tell us exactly what FH's files we have to modified.

9. Now no gamer in the World can play FH1 on server with punkbuster last version! It's a big pity cause now plenty of new FH gamers got a PC with Vista installed!

10. it's a very bad thing cause after the end of June 2008 WindowsXP SP2 will be not sold on markets in many lands of the World!

If we are no be able to create a patch for FH1 on Vista, I think FH will be doomed.

11. We opened punkbuster support ticket; we wrote on Punkbusted.com; we wrote to Microsoft (and I am Vista "bêta tester"), but unfortunaly never I finded solution about this very hard problem!


Thank you very much LOBO if you can help FH1's players on Vista.

Best regard and cordialy!

joeldecaroual alias sgt_garcia responsable technical support forum and administrator on pixel Fighter Community in Germany and on Somua.com in France.

[SnackBar]

Hello guys,since I will own a Vista 64x pre-installed rig shortly,im very interrested in this Vista/FH1 matter.

sgt_garcia Thx for the diagram(allways wanted to make some sortlike,but about FH1 tanks).
My question to u sgt_garcia?Did u try as Admin ,or did u turn UAC off?

[Sgt_garcia.fr]

Hi all comrade and you Snackbar

I say I tried all methods for that:

1. Execute as Administrator

2. Other method: deactivate UAC on Vista.

3. Nights and nights I worked and I continue working ...

4. All run fine with other mods but IT' S NO POSSIBLE TO PLAY FH1 (for bf1942) ON SERVERS WHICH ARE USING PUNKBUSTER LAST VERSION

5. Because on VISTA OS FH1 runs only with compatibility mod "Windows98" but the last Punkbuster version is no compatible with "Windows98" compatibility mod on Vista!

6. You can see on my compatibility table that Punkbuster runs only with bf42's mods which can work with compatibility mod "WindowsXP SP2" on Vista.

Best regard and cordialy and sorry for my very special English, excuse me for that please, thank you very much.

Sgt_garcia

[slick82]

plus, 98 mode causes glitchy sound

[Pixy.1337]

i have been playing FH1 alot the last week, on vista, try this: reinstall PB to the basic version, then everything will be fine on some servers.

[Murilo Specht]

Got Vista 64-bit, 9800 GT, 2 GB RAM, E8200 dual core, and had CTD's while loading maps, tried the fix, and it worked just fine, but I have been experiencing CTD's online, after some time playing, and also when 'disconnecting' from a game or even from a single player game. Vista says the .exe had stopped working...

any ideas?

[pasherz]

Ive tried the run in compatability for windows 98/ME and all the others but if i try them the game wont even load! if i dont use them then it crahes's to desktop when it gets to map loading, BTW whats the UAC on vista?

[Sgt_garcia.fr]

Hi all and you "pasherz"

1. User Account Control (UAC) is the new feature that was introduced in Windows Vista to reduce the potential risk of security breeches in the system.

But about some applications (examples :if some games on servers give problems (kick...) in this eventuality you can disable UAC= User Account Control in Windows Vista (also on Windows7 Bêta version).

After that do not forget to reboot (restart your PC).

When UAC is desactivated you can install programs as soon as you made on WindowsXP!

But WARNING! After playing, if you want to surf on the Internet you DO (insistance forme) activate UAC on Vista to prevent hackers attack spywares attacks etc...WARNING! You have to reboot (restart) your PC again.

You can see some topics please: (because different methods are possible to deactivate UAC on Vista)

How to Disable User Account Control (UAC) - Windows Vista help

How to Disable User Account Control in Vista

Easily disable UAC (User Account Control) in Windows Vista

Super Tweaks for Windows Vista by Black Viper

2. I also say "if all your drivers (graphic card's drivers; sounds card or

sounds cheapset 's drivers are updated and DirectX 9c is uptaded ) :

Download details: DirectX Redist (November 2008)

I think in your Land you have a free site to update automaticaly your drivers. Like "touslesdrivers.com" in France (Frankreich).

Mes Drivers - détection en ligne automatique de la configuration matérielle et des drivers compatibles

(Click on "LANCER LA DETECTION" , all your material are detected and you have to update your drivers : choose whql version by security).

When you updated one driver it's better to boot (restart again your PC).

Do not forget in compatibility parameters (click mouse's right button on your FH's shortcut) and in compatibility choose:

Run this program in compatibility mode "Windows98-Me".

"Disable deskop effect" .

"Disable visual theme".

"Run this program as an administrator"

In these conditions you can play without problem FH for Bf1942 in "Windows 98-Me" compatibility mod on Windows Vista but only on servers no Punkbuster protected ( no protected by Punkbuster).

Best regard!

sgt_garcia

[pasherz]

Thanks alot Sgt i thought of trying the other option like disable visual theme, thanks alo for the help ill go try it all out now.