Not Hitting with AT, Skin Bugs etc
 

Well yesterday I installed FH and I went playing with a friend.
I allready heard some of the basics of how the game works so I thought 'cool, something different'.
I took the AT kit and went firing at tanks. First round hit and after that nothing :/.
So I asked my friend, how do you fire with this weapon? Because I was afraid I was doing something wrong with the recoil or w.e.
He said well usually I dont wait longer then a second or two before I fire again.
So I was lying there, waiting for like 15 seconds till my next shot but still I missed :rolleyes: :/.
Tried it with about 15 rounds and then I gave up.
The problem at the start seemed the only occur with Panzer 3s, but after a while it happened with other vehicles as well.
And if you want to know the distance I shot from, heres a SS.
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7...reen026jg6.jpg

Anyway later on I took my pistol but the skin disappeared, basically I had my hand with nothing in it.
Then I switched to the rifle I had, it had a weird overall greyish colour. I saw inf so I zoomed in and I got a big grey block in my screen, almost as big as my entire screen :/.
So I jumped into that German AA truck, now I got grey colours inside the jeep >_<.
Then some other weird stuff like not being able to hit an aircraft with my MG 34 (or 42 or w.e), not even when I shot at it with a fixed heavy anti inf gun mounted in one of the bunkers.

So yea guys I have to say I started playing with a lot of good hope.
But I was kinda turned down bad by all of this (next to annoying stuff as the map not showing up right and recon not being able to spot correctly, standing up with AT guns and not being able to do much etc).
Although the last stuff have mostly allready been mentioned I saw.

Cheers,
DH

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sound like a vcard problem , overheating maybe?

and AT rifles are useless againts almos everything (except stuarts , panzer 2s , some crusaders and the back of the grants) , its better to use the AT granade .

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I have to second Sicario here.

AT rifles are no bazookas, AT rifles pretty much suck and they only really work against weak tanks and other vehicles. Most tanks need to be hit in the back or top (engne deck) to be able to harm them with an AT rifle.

The graphical problems sound like an external problem (graphics card drivers, system specs etc. try plaing at lower graphic settings , making sure that your graphic cards is up to date etc.).

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The AT rifles in the game are essentially no different than the .50 BMG rifles we have now. They're anti-materiel weapons, but that doesn't mean they're actually anti-tank weapons. They represent technology that, by the 1940s, was a generation behind what was starting to be produced. In the days of light tanks and armored cars that basically WERE just cars with some extra plating and a machinegun, the AT rifle was quite useful. However, for taking out a medium tank (Sherman, Panzer III - IV, Grant frontally or on the side, Crusader) or an infantry tank (Matilda II, Valentine), they won't do anything other than chip the paint.

The reason why you may be thinking you're not hitting is because the hit indicator isn't flashing. The hit indicator only flashes, I think, when you cause damage. You can hit something and not cause damage, and the hit indicator won't light up. For example, taking a Bren and firing it at an enemy tank. Same thing is probably happening with the AT rifle. You probably got lucky at a particular angle and scored a hit, but future hits were on parts of the tank that were too heavily armored.

One other thing. I think range comes into play as well. AT rifles can only penetrate enemy armor at certain range. Past that, they won't damage the tank, I don't think. That's certainly how it was in real life, anyway, and is probably like that in the game, too. So it's possible that the tank was within range when you first fired, then drove out of range.

In general, your best bet is to use the AT rifle on lighter targets, and from close range. On medium targets you're just wasting your ammo. Better at that point to hide with your stickybomb or gebalt lauding ready, and then toss it at the enemy.

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Mmh I didnt know it was only for lighter targets.
So basically as inf, when you see a medium or 'heavy' tank, you better wait for tank / air support or get in one of the real AT / Pak guns?
I asume the last category are good against every kind of tanks?

Well about the skin problems, my PC is kinda stone age (especially my gfx card).
Its a 5700 LE if I remember correctly. Processor is a Intel 4 2.80GHz (2 CPUs)with 512 mb RAM.

edit: thanks for the fast replies

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512 mb RAM? There we go. Recommended minimum RAM for FH2 is 1 gig, and 2 gigs is what most people like to have to play FH2.

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Yep. You're better off in an AT cannon or calling for air/armor support. Once they get close enough, you can always try ambushing with a stickybomb, but chances are you'll kill yourself and/or other teammates who have the same idea. That's been my experience. Plus, stickybombs will only damage the tanks. They won't destroy them unless you land the thing on the engine deck.

As for the rifles, remember basically they're firing a single .55 calibre round (14.5mm, I think). It might have a slightly different composition from the average Browning MG bullet, but pretty much that's all it is. Not really enough to take out a tank most of the time. Later in the war, the Russians used PTRDs and PTRSs to damage enemy tanks (IE: shoot at the cupola viewslits, maybe damage a mechanism here or there), but AT rifles were pretty much outclassed after the first few years of WWII and were already becoming obsolete as the first shots were being fired.

I recommend 2gb of RAM. Your processor can probably handle the game, but the RAM is invaluable. fortunately, RAM is relatively inexpensive these days. Check your motherboard manual to see what configurations you have to run for RAM, then buy what you need (or, I guess, do without...).

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Well TBH I didnt check the minimum hardware requirements of FH.
Basically because Bf2 only needs 512 and I asumed that a mod for the game would have about the same minimum requirements as the game itself.
Dont think that was a very weird reasoning >_>
Im a poor poor gamer hehe

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What you need to play FH2 - Forgotten Hope Wiki

;) AS the wiki states, the game does run if you can run BF2 (but with low specs you need to run the game on all low and may still experience odditities) but if you want to enjoy FH2 fully you should get better specs (ram) so that you can play FH2 on medium or high.

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Ye I know its pretty bad. I played the 'normal' Bf2 for about 700 hours.
I can manage it just like you said, I need to put everything at low + the viewing distance at 75 %.
I dont mind the gfx since Ive always put em at low (even when I dont have to at games like CS 1.6 etc) but the decreased viewing distance is just a pain in the ass. Especially on the big desert maps of FH.

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Don't think of them as Anti-Tank but Anti-material Weapons.

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Well about ATR you can definetly kill Pz4 easily with them. Alam Halfa is a good practiceground for them because mad german tankers drive their tanks like they would be driving tigers. Thanks to that you can get easy shots to their exposed back and kill them with 3-4 shots. And with Boys ATR you can shoot those 3-4 shots REALLY fast, way faster than with Panzerbüchse because it must be loaded every time you shoot and it takes time. So they are not so bad at AT job but as everyone has already stated you need to know where you shoot or you just dent their pretty paint.

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yeah i drive my tanks like i am in a tiger and cap flags in no time, i rarely got stopped by infantry in alam halfa, ATRs are even worse to tanks compare to bazookas to tigers.

don't tell it's easy to shoot a medium tank with your ATR. many people just have the chance to hit 1-2 times (not even disabling it) before the tank turned(that means you cannot hurt it) and blast you out(or not, depends on the tanker is busy enough or not)

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Where exactly are you hitting them? I have never managed to damage PzIIIs and PzIVs with the ATR, I thought it was impossible.

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Well like I mentioned I myself did get in a few hits at lucky moments but it was usually only one and then Id get killed or just be shootin for nothing.
TBH its a bad tactic to go against Medium and Heavy tanks with your ATR.
And since the other vehicles are almost never encountered its actually kinda useless to take the kit at all IMHO.....especially as Germans with the low rate of fire and the bomb that wont even stick :/.
I rather just take my 'chances' and wait for backup or try to get the heck out.

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I dunno, I actually prefer the German explosives to the British sticky bomb, I find it easier to use and way more effective.

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Just wait them to pass you and shoot in their rear armor. If you shoot there it always gets damaged and about 3-4 shots from Boys takes them down or at least to critically damaged. Oh and thanks to uneven terrain of Alam Halfa you can sometimes get shots to bellies of tanks and it hurts them alot.

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I can't do any damage, at least I'm not getting a hit indicator. Where exactly in the rear armor should I be aiming?

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maybe it has a higher explosion, Im not sure about that
but easier usage? no sorry, have to fully disagree on that
usually the tank has driven away by the team I place it

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I'm just aiming in the middle of rear armor and it registers hit everytime BUT I'm not sure about Pz3 as most time tanks I've had luck to kill are Pz4 (F1-2). Maybe Pz3 has thicker rear armor than Pz4. :confused: On the other hand with Panzerbüchse it seems hard to kill anything but ATGs and light vehicles.

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Well, by the time I have prepared the sticky grenade, the tank has usually driven away as well and I end up chasing it across the desert with right mouse button pushed... I guess the sticky bomb is useful for ambushes, where you can throw it on the passing armor, but for tanks staying in one place covering the infantry, the german explosives are better IMO. In the end it just boils down to personal preference.
Maybe I haven't even tried it on pz4, have to test it then. If its only 4 shots, I imagine it can actually be dangerous.