The Under City

[Galandril]

Hello Modders out there,
While roaming through Oblivion, it had occured to me that all illegal things in oblivion appear to be invisible. And there are absolutely no truly safe place for a villain (true villains). And there are also no mods for things like this.

Since I'm a lousy modder, I am now asking for someone else to do this for me

I'm not sure at the moment on the 'fine' details of this, but I just want there to be a city, preferably somewhere in the sewers under the IC.

The main ideas are;
1. Blackmarket - A market () were stolen or illegal goods are sold - without question.
2. No guards - Yes no guards, so watch out for pickpockets! And maybe every now and then a vampire will try to suck your blood. (Note: this vampire bite can be preventable: 50% chance you will detect a vampire, and 50% you won't)
3. Quests - Many quests in this "Under City" varied from Thievery to Murder to running the UC. Also some small petty quests, no big rewards, but just for the player's enjoyment .
4. Taverns and Inns - Whilst in an inn or a tavern, haven't you ever wondered "Why is there no drunken fights?" Well i want those fights to happen. Cos Ive always wanted to watch to guys get into a drunken brawl, and before you ask, yes no one will break the fight up...only join in !
5. Dark Brotherhood - I want a Dark Brotherhood presence down in the UC! And yes, every now and then someone will get murdered.Quests included.
6. The Crimson Scars - The Crimson Scars has always been a wonder to me, so i want to bring 'em into the game. (Note: Yes this is the same Crimson Scars in Deepscorn Hollow) Quests included
7. Thieves Guild - Can't keep the thieves guild out of the UC, can we? And of course, quests
8. Control - Eventually, some of the quests you do might eventually lead to you becoming the mayor of this UC, and yes there will be assassination attempts.
9. Voice Actors - I would love to have voice actors in this, it will make things easier.
10. Housing - I want housing available in this mod. And not just one house, six houses availible for purchase. One lower class (shack), middle class (ordinary house), and higher class (rich house, basically). The other three are scams, which you will only be able to find out once you purchase it. But, of course there will be hints; e.g "It just so happens that i have a lovely sh...house available by the entrance." Or something a bit less obvious.

Now, This is a very big project (that im not sure i could be much help with) but i would love to see this come true.
Will wait for replies...and try to get better at modding...
If you wish to contact me, you can reach me at jakejohn1991@hotmail.co.uk
Thank you!

[Dave-Mastor]

Well, it sounds like a very good idea; with the knowledge I know about the construction set, I can tell you that it should all be possible to do.

I'm too busy to help, (Tootle-ing away on my models) to help, I can refer you to the Construction Set Wiki, which you can get to either by clicking here, or by clicking on the help menu in the constrction set itself. I learned a lot of what I know from that site, but nothing helps better than good 'ol fashioned trial and error.

But I think it's a very good Idea, kudos!

[Galandril]

Thanks for the link, m8, its a helpfull site.

[Galandril]

I would like some help, of course, as I am a beginner. The main things I would like help with would be Voice Acting, Script Editing, and Modelling.
Unfortuantly, at this moment in time, I am unable to proceed further in this project, as my hard drive needs replacing, so everything I had done, is erased...also my GCSEs are coming up so i need to study. But, when i do get the new hard drive, i will do some work on the project.

If anyone can offer help, or give me help on how to do some of the things in Bold and Underlined writing, in simple form, then that would be great. The CS wiki is quite confusing so i would like to find a simpler form for modding.
Thank You.

[Dave-Mastor]

What do you mean by "Simpler form for modding"?

Because the CS Wiki is probably the best site for tutorials, and the Construction set itself isn't going to get any easier. Aside from scripting, is there any thing which you are particularly confused about in the CS?

[Galandril]

oh I meant Modelling oops :P my bad...This is only cause I find it hard - or rather found it hard - to model using the .nif tools to add collision etc.
The physics tutorial doesn't really say how to create collision clearly.
Modelling is the main confusion atm - also collision geometry. So it would be great if you could give me a few instructions on collision and modelling...if you can then that would be excellent!

Oh and one more thing; I got a new hard drive, resumed work, but as you would expect, i have to start from the begining :S

And one last thing, which .nif tool would you recommend, 'cause I'm not to sure atm.

[BradshawTS]

I thought the dark brotherhood are too posh and well manored to be part of a criminal underworld?

[Galandril]

True - but, it does make sense to have the Dark Brotherhood have a presense - even if small - in the Under City...

[Galandril]

Two new things to add to the list:
11) Beggars Canyon - An area of beggars (duh...) who are under the portection of the Gray Fox and maker of the Under City.
12) Constant War - The Under City is fighting a constant war with the surface world in an area called Warthorn Vally. This is where the hordes of the Under City do battle with the Mages Guild, the Fighters Guild, and the Imperial Legion. - NOTE: THIS WILL PROBABLY BE THE LAST FEATURE ADDED.

Some day soon, I will try and come up with a background story to the Under City (UC for short). If anyone has any ideas, please mail me!

[Vince]

Alot of the things you mentioned have already been done.