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Anyone looking forward to this? I finished season 3 a few weeks ago and loved it. Even without Andy it's a good season, the dude who replaced him does a good job plus with Andy only being in season 1 it's easy to 'forget' about him.
Season 4 is confirmed as the last one, everyone must die. Thoughts?

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I've been watching this show since it aired and love it. It's got nearly everything I enjoy from a TV show, minus the aliens and space ships. =p

Season 4 (what would actually be Season 3 (Gods of the Arena was a Sequel)) is the last one yeah, though I don't believe everyone is going to die. Whilst the show portrays history well, there are intentional inconsistencies; Oenomaus for example was historically a Caucasian Gaul (same nationality as Crixus). Obviously within this show, he was neither.

I can't find any historical mention of Agron or Gannicus either, thus his fate remains unclear (as do half the backup cast). History doesn't seem to recall what actually happens to Spartacus, although:It'll be interesting to see whether the producers follow this through.

I'm currently three episodes in. Shame there are only ten in total.

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Agreed, lasers would also work.

It would be a poor ending if everyone lives, the majority must surely be killed off. The show may not be historically accurate however the part where "everyone and Spartacus dies" is a large part to miss in my eyes. Although I will be shouting at my TV when spartacus finally goes down.

I want to see how Gannicus is going to play out. He wasn't too keen on their cause, his best mate is dead and he has had a lot of screen time with the second season alone.

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I fully expect a whole load of people to be killed off as the show goes on, but I don't expect one of those people to be Spartacus. Historically, there is no evidence to suggest that he was defeated. His army was, but he was never mentioned as being killed. Thus, either he's going to abandon the rebellion, or he'll suffer that great a defeat, that he'll retreat. I'm sensing some 'to-be' chemistry between him and that Roman woman too. Whether that'll have anything to do with it remains to be seen.

I too am looking to see how the show develops with Gannicus. It'll either swing two ways; he'll go down fighting, or he'll leave the rebellion and go and make another life for himself. He's with the rebellion, somewhat to honor the memory of Oenomaus, yet I think Gannicus has his limits.

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You know, last season wasn't my favorite at all. I really missed Andy. Not saying is wasn't good because it was, just Andy played the role to well, I felt the passion he had for it and I just couldn't feel it with Liam with the last season (but this season I can). Not to mention actress change with Neavia too :[

But so far I'm in love with this season! In a way a feel it's a completely different show, in a good way though.

I love Marcus Crassus. He's smart, he doesn't underestimate his enemies. I'm looking forward to seeing more of him. I always wanted to see a character like him who wasn't constantly drinking and fraking (Love Gannicus though, ha!) or wasn't a total douche like Glaber. Then again, who knows, his character may prove me wrong.

Is everyone going to die? I doubt it. I assume at least a few will live.

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Do you mean the blonde bitch? Glabers widow? Can't remember her name...

I think he's gone too far to go back now, he fights for honour and I think that he is slowly being converted. He's probably just after a worthy and glorious death to be honest.

It is a shame about Andy, he was perfect for the part and made the series what it is. I feel sorry for the new guy though, those are some big boots to fill however I don't think he has done a bad job just put into an extremely difficult position.

I actually prefer the new Neavia, she doesn't look too different and suits the role well, couldn't imagine the other actress playing Neavia properly after they save her from the mines.


One thing I love though- The actor who played Glaber is Haldir for LOTR.
Mind=blown.

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I'll put money on Crixus (and Neavia) being killed, and Spartacus living. As for everyone else, your guess is as good as mine.

Uhh. No. What season are you on?

Quoted for truth.

This, I would agree with. I can't see the actress who played the original Neavia being this... brutal. Just don't think she'd have suited the role.

Hah, yeah. I had to be told that by a colleague. I didn't notice it myself.

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I hope not...Crixus is personally my favourite character. A complete badass. He would give Spartacus a bloody good fight.

I will never watch LOTR the same again.

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How did I not notice that?! Well I'm glad the actor got another high profile part because I really liked his portrayal of Haldir.

Anyway, I'm liking the season so far. The introduction and portrayal of a young Caesar is very interesting. They also found a great actor to play Marcus Crassus.

I know someone with the show whether it was creator or not said something along the lines of expect to be surprised with their direction of their ending, so Spartacus may end up surviving in the end who knows.

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I completely agree with Crixus and Neavia. I think Spartacus will live. But I honestly think Gannicus will live, or maybe I'm just hoping he will.

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:agreed
I think he played Glaber extremely well also. I liked how he started off all calm, cool, rich and slowly went mad as stress and betrayal twisted him. I can't imagine anyone else playing that part as well.

I honestly think they will kill off Spartacus, they have to in my eyes. The leader must die for the rebellion to die. It's all centered around Spartacus. If Crixus dies I hope it is '300' style!!

From a woman's perspective who is the most attractive?

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Depends on the season. Lol. Like in the season I like think Gannicus is the most attractive, but back in Gods of the Arena I had a big thing for Crixus. As for females in the show, I freakin love Saxa! Sucks because I know she will definitely die.


The only reason I think Spartacus will live is because in history they actually don't know what happened to him.


What do you guys think about Gannicus and this new girl that keeps following him around? I can't remember her name.

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Gannicus is a funny one, other than Spartacus, you can pretty much suss out who's likely to die, and who isn't. I've watched up to episode #5, and without giving too much away, I suspect that either Agron or Saxa will likely go down in episode #6; because of what happens at the end of episode #5.

I was talking to a colleague of mine today about this, and he's so say read up on the whole war and the events that are known about it (some of which are in contradiction with each other). Suffice to say, he said that at some point during the war, Spartacus heads north back into the land of Thrace.

Maybe (and this is a big maybe) he'll realize (in the show) that rome cannot be defeated, and thus retreats with what is left of his army to live? I don't know how true the information I was told is (the person in question is known for exaggerating truth), besides the fact I've been able to find nothing to collaborate his story online. As far as online resources can tell, Spartacus was never found/recovered.

Gannicus will stick with Saxa until she dies I imagine. I think it all depends on whether Gannicus lives, if he does, he might very well settle down with that new girl. Otherwise, she'll likely die along with everyone else.

Edit: For what it's worth, I've just looked over on wikipedia and Gannicus is mentioned there (along with another Gladiator named Castus (don't believe we've met him) as having existed). I was under the impression he was a mere fabrication of the show creators. It also states in the article that Spartacus was presumed dead, but that his body was never found.

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I didn't even know there were seasons 1, 2, and 3 =\

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Well, after all that, those of which I expected to die, didn't. I'm actually glad about that, means they'll at least last till the final fight.

SURPRISE!!! =p

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It goes Blood and Sand (first season), Gods of the Arena (prequel mini-series, introduce Gannicus), Vengeance (second season), War of the Damned (third season). So are currently on the final and third season!

Anywho, What did you guys think of the last episode?

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I didn't want to be the first to post here considering what happened in the last episode. =p I'm truly going to miss this show, it's been great.My thoughts were similar to yours here, I wasn't expecting him to join Crixus.

As for Navia:

Alike King Joffery (Game of Thrones) Tiberius will get what's coming to him.

I think Ceasar will have something to do with the death of Tiberius, though whether he'll be the one doing the deed yet remains. I'm pretty sure he (Crassus) will find out though, I just can't suss out how.

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I agree with most of that ^.

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I haven't actually watched past the first couple of episodes of this season, really need to catch up. Would you guys say it is better than the last season or worse?

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So much better! I didn't really like last season very much, there was good parts don't get me wrong, but I like this season more :D

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I stand corrected. It was just a sword (though I believe it was Tiberius and not just a common Soldier that took him down).

I still can't quite believe that happened. :lulz:

As Lusty has said, this season is better than the last. Vengeance was too... political I think, that and it focused too much on Lucricia and Ilithia (their names may be incorrectly spelt). We'd already had them in Blood & Sand along with Gods of the Arena (at least one of them there). Their part in Vengeance didn't seem to be anything of note.

War of the Damned however, there hasn't yet been an episode which I've thought was too slow or boring. Granted there have been some that were slower than others (that's always the case) but in true form, this season lives up to all the hype and excitement.

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I would say it's pretty equal to the previous season; both seasons are good but in their own ways.

Like Flash said, Vengeance had incredible politics and scheming on the small scale. Focusing on characters and their efforts to get what they want. But it was a breath of fresh air to see a TV show that provided that level of detail and character developments. War of the Damned is a lot less detailed with less character development and more large scale battles and conflicts.

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It's just a shame that so many people slander such a great series because of the sex and sometimes cheesey violence, they look over the attention to detail in costumes, politics and some class A actors. Even the dialogue is brilliant, especially between the women who are all just making snide little comments at each other with big fake smiles.

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...and just to make it even more interesting, with two episodes to go, they go on a friggin' break. God Damn It! Now I've got to wait an extra friggin' week.Quoted for truth. There is a similar opinion with the Game of Thrones show, but that is equally as brilliant.

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It's definitely a great series, maybe in my top five, at least top ten. Although I do think there are way too many sex scenes especially in the first season and prequel season. I remember when watching "Gods of the Arena" how much time was wasted showing sex scenes most of which weren't necessary. There has been some great writing for the series but the excessive sex scenes water down the overall writing quality. For me the excessive sex scenes make the writers look a little sloppy. They're too much of filler scenes than things that actually move the plot forward. However, I will give props to the writers and actors for the dialogue. The dialogue can be quite a mouthful sometimes and I'm sure the actors have had many flubs along the way more so than other dramas.

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I disagree. Look up ancient Roman history. Ancient Rome was a cesspool of immorality. As far as historians are concerned, unrestrained sexual activity was a fairly normal characteristic for ancient Rome. Prostitution was legal, uninhibited, and widespread. Even some ancient Roman religions believed sexual activity would bring prosperity. The scenes depicted is Spartacus are pretty spot on for the culture of the day.

I say props to the shows writers for not shying away from the true nature of ancient Rome.

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I think you may have misunderstood me. I know Rome was filled with unrestrained sexual activity but the show is called "Spartacus" not "Let's watch everyone have sex" :p

I'm not saying I have a problem with all the sex scenes because there are a handful that are key to the plot and I understand them including sex scenes makes it a more true depiction of Rome. But what I'm saying is that by season one, I think the audience got the idea that Rome was a sex fueled culture. Rather than continually beating us over the head with Roman sex culture they could have cut the sex scenes by half or even just take away a quarter and used that time for political intrigue, non-sexual character relation developments, extended action sequences, etc.

If a sex scene is going to be in episode there better be a good reason why it is being shown not just because there hasn't been a sex scene in a while. I will say though I think this season has done a better job of cutting back on sex scenes and showing only what is absolutely necessary. I just wish they would have reduced the number slightly in the past seasons.

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:agreed


There are so many TV shows where they hide the true nature of what happened and make it look all high and mighty when really there was shit and sex everywhere and people were even bigger arseholes than they are now.

Hats off to the writers.

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Thoughts on the last episode?



Only one episode left now, can't wait to see how it all ends. :)

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I thought it was a fitting conclusion to episode #8. I'm glad that he didn't actually die (especially the way we thought he had), though I can't say I'm going to miss that shit who died in this episode. His time was going to come sooner or later, though I expected it to be at the hands of the other person rather than the one that actually got him. All that information with no spoilers. Awesome! =p

Loved Gannicus in this episode too: "Two Romans seem to deliver no contest! Send three, so that I may deliver proper tribute!"

Are you kidding? I hate this fact. This time next week there will be no more Spartacus. EVER! This saddens me. The show has been an epic ride, and it's one I'd have liked to have seen continue for a few more seasons to come. They could have got a full two-seasons out of this ending chapter too.

This is one show (with a conclusion) that I'm truly going to miss. http://forums.filefront.com/images/s...28frown%29.gif

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And Episode #10 Aired. Man I'm gutted that this show is over, even if they produce a spinoff, it just wont be the same. :(

I wont say which one it is, but only one of our friends from the 'Batiatus Camp' survives the show, the rest are either killed, or are left for dead. Those that did die (at least, those main ones) got a worthy ending though, a Klingon would feel honoured (at least, somewhat).

Did I mention it sucks that this show has ended?

But anyway, four seasons, some 39 hours of television, and some solid acting. It's a shame about the change of cast for some of the characters, obviously one couldn't have been helped though, and the other (Naevia); in truth I don't think the original actress would have been able to pull off the part. Still, this show will remain a favorite of mine, and I can only hope for some sort of sequel.

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I'm bummed out to see the show end, but then again I'd hate to see it become that show that drags on for years and years and loses all of its originality.

I think the finale was pretty good, it closed up all the loose ends pretty nicely.

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It's been confirmed by the shows directors etc that this character is indeed dead. No spinoff for him. If we get one, it'll be via Caesar and will focus on a more Roman perspective. They left that open at the end when Pompey showed up.