Re: The Clone Wars destroyed much of the Star Wars franchise and fanbase.
 

What did I say that was wrong?

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Re: The Clone Wars destroyed much of the Star Wars franchise and fanbase.
 

This:
It was rude and aimed at another member, therefore it classifies as a personal attack.
And there you go doing it again. I don't know what's your problem, but this ends right here, right now. Watch your language. This is your second warning. If you fail to comply, I will start deleting your posts. That is all.

Re: The Clone Wars destroyed much of the Star Wars franchise and fanbase.
 

Yeah I agree, at least they are doing SOMETHING rather than selling crappy mechandise.
I personally don't mind it THAT much it's tollerable, has a bit of humour-it's mainly Anakin and Ahsoka that kill it with crappy dialog.

And by the sounds of it you want to like indoctrinate kids into little SW fans by making them watch it when they are young:lol:


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By the way guys just remember that it's just a cartoon, fair enough it's SW but don't have a fit over it...

Re: The Clone Wars destroyed much of the Star Wars franchise and fanbase.
 

Yeah...the animated cartoon was orientated toward the 9 - 12 year-old market. From the few snippets I seen when nothing less boring was on, it kinda dragged. You'd think the SW people would have learned not to repeat the cartooning of a franchise from ST. Oh well.

Re: The Clone Wars destroyed much of the Star Wars franchise and fanbase.
 

To say that the Original Trilogy was a "Kids Movie" is a naive simplification, honestly.

The Original Trilogy itself is just meshed from classic story elements taken particularly from Norse and Greek hero concepts. It's just a modern-day epic which (unlike the epics of Classic Greece) is set in a place that although completely different from our everyday lives, we can relate to.

To say that a film is a kids movie, is to imply what? That children like the movie? I know kids who loved Gladiator, or Kill Bill, or one of countless war movies that exist, does that make them kids movies? Although open to interpretation, I'd go so far as to say No, it obviously doesn't.

To me, a "kids movie" is a movie that has virtually no appeal to adults, save possible nostalgia and the fact that it would make their child happy, i.e. 95% of all Disney movies, the majority of movies based on cartoons, what have you. These usually contain little death, almost always have a happy ending, have cutesy characters that don't have serious problems (Drug problems, sex problems, insanity...), a lot of crude or simple humor and finally they almost always reinforce the idea that children, however insignificant they are, have a huge impact on their environment.

Following that criteria, I'd have to say that the Original Trilogy is definitely not "Kiddie material", The Prequel Trilogy isn't either, although a lot more in that direction, and finally the Clone Wars (specifically the recent series/movie) is definitely a "Kid series".

Re: The Clone Wars destroyed much of the Star Wars franchise and fanbase.
 

Even if it was a kid's movie, it still destoryed it. I didn't even go to watch it. But from the images and previews, the models were horrible. It was like guitar hero style graphics.

Re: The Clone Wars destroyed much of the Star Wars franchise and fanbase.
 

The only Star Wars I'm willing to accept as true Star Wars are the OT.
Everything else to me are just happy little alternate universes or possible causes of the events in the movies. I never felt the cohesiveness and unique feeling of interest and care in the prequels as I did in the OT or EU. So as far as I'm concerned George Lucas and most of the world under 12 can have their Star Wars, and I can have mine. ;)

Re: The Clone Wars destroyed much of the Star Wars franchise and fanbase.
 

I think it is missing the point slightly to concentrate on whether a movie or series is aimed at kids or not. A movie or series can be pitched at kids but still hold to proper production values in terms of characters, story and dialogue.

I seen Star Wars on first cinema release in 1977, I was a kid, it was a kids movie and I loved it. But it contained scenes and dialogue i didn't appreciate till I was much older. When Obi-Wan describes Mos Eisley as "a wretched hive of scum and villainy". That doesn't mean anything to an 8 year old, but as I grow older it become one of my favourite lines, because the movies had depth and solidity.

In this clone wars series, they would say something along the lines of, "like, don't go near that place dude, you know, it is full of bad people and stuff, so like, yeh, don't go there."

Clone Wars is abysmal and the fact it is for kids is no excuse.

Re: The Clone Wars destroyed much of the Star Wars franchise and fanbase.
 

the clone wars are far better than any of the prequels that were released despite it's flaws. i can't stand the personalities that were given to the battle droids after the phantom menace, but the show just exacerbates their annoying tendencies. that's my major qualm with the show. the stories, however, aren't as contrived as the plots in the first two prequels; granted, they're not all great, but for an animated feature, they're pretty enjoyable.

Re: The Clone Wars destroyed much of the Star Wars franchise and fanbase.
 

I absolutely despise Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and contrary to what some of you have said, it is destroying the movies. I like the movies, all six of them, but things are getting very bad for Star Wars ever since they concocted the New Jedi Order and beyond.

TCW is creating a mess out of the Clone Wars era, a mess I don't think they are going to be able to dig their selves out of in a way that is satisfactory to me. Thanks to TCW, the Tantive IV is no longer in Revenge of the Sith when everything since RotS said that the Tantive IV was the CR70, until they decided to retcon it to be the Sundered Heart from EaW and make the Tantive IV a CR90 from the beginning, in the recent Star Wars: Blueprints! The c20 Vanguard refit explanation for the differences between a CR70 and a CR90 were far better than this Tantive IV dramatic reversal retcon nonsense (as I have come to call it) that goes directly against George Lucas's own words.

The list goes on and on, from Ryloth rotating like every other planet to the death of Even Piell in the second year of the Clone Wars when he lived through the Clone Wars and died in Coruscant Nights I: Jedi Twilight, for what a stupid kid's cartoon is doing to Star Wars canon when it really shouldn't be able to do that based on the canon system.

I could go on and on about the Del-Rey books too, but this isn't the thread for such an argument.