Dawn of war entering religon?

[Whiteshield]

Originally Posted by crisissuit3

well ive been pondering this for awhile and i just want to get this off my chest.

i think dawn of war is attacking religon, christianity mainly. since one of the commandment is though shall not worship any other god or something like that.

i mean they call the emperor my lord, they pray to him, worship him, and all that good god stuff.

my friend even got in trouble by his mom in which he took a quote and replaced emperor with lord on his picture title.

Hmm... I'm a Christian, you know what I think? I play Dawn of War too. It's friggin sweeeet ... What his mom fails to understand is its not really about religion. It's your belief in God. It doesn't matter who you call Him, it's you're belief in God. Sure, I think Dawn of War is attacking religion. Catholicism mainly(No offense though I'm not catholic or protestant) . I mean, heresy this heresy that... Purge this and that... I think the "figurehead" thinks he is God. You know, like the Inquisitors, they're self righteous and say this and that about religion but in truth, they're just hypocrites. I mean you wanna know the truth? There's not a single holy person in the world. That's the truth... We're people. Nobody's perfect. We all have our flaws. We all appear good on the outside but hypocrites in the inside... for example... "Hey! Don't you know you'll never get better at dawn of war using mods?" - The guy who says that uses plenty of mods from DOW filefront. Calling the Lord, his Emperor is fine as long as he doesn't forget whom he's referring too... I refer to God as my General... Do you call God your Emperor? Or do you call The Emperor your god?

[Whiteshield]

Originally Posted by Bohemund

75% of the American population are Christian, so it wouldn't be a good idea for the movie to piss off 3/4 of their viewers!

Permission to speak freely?... Okay... Even though Christians are a majority in terms of religion, not all are going to heaven... I mean what's the point of being a Christian if you don't act like a Christian? Quoting from KOTOR 2:
player- "You were Sith?"
Atton- "Yes, but that's just a name"
Dude, you can be a CALLED Christian but seriously, a lot of people known as Christians WILL BURN... Seriously... It's about your faith. No amount of money, prayers, good deeds can get you in heaven. You see by believing in Christ is the only way... Just believe?... You're joking me right?... Believe it or not, no matter how easy it may seem, without faith, how can you believe? Of course you can be baptized or do any ritual for all I know, that won't help...

[Whiteshield]

Originally Posted by Tar-Emmetar

well as a lapsed catholic that has a reasonable crisis of faith and a great enjoyment of various types of fiction and alternative (from religious aka scientific) views of reality i have a simple solution to all the seriously hyper sensitive/ serious religious people out there whop are so offended by the Warhammer 40,000 universe.

1: don't play pc games, don't read any form of non religious literature, don't partake in any non-religious forms of entertainment such as film, music, games etc

2:Only ever be involved in things that are 100% approved by your sky-god, religion, cult or sect of choice/upbringing

3: Apply vaseline to rear body orifice and firmly stick you head up your #&@! (better not swear and offend the god squad) and live you life in the manner of a 10th century hermit by not think outside the dogma/stories of your sky-god, religion, cult or sect of choice/upbringing


There that should avoid any nasty encounters with the modern world.

:lol: Hahaha good one mate! I'm not catholic or protestant. It's about belief anyways. I'm a Christian plain and simple. Some things I do are questionable to God, well, that's because I'm human. We always crap things up don't we? Anyway, for me, it's no sex till married(savin my you know what for that special girl...I'm not a homo...), no killin stuff for real(humans most of all), PC Games are sweet... Our pastor even plays with us when he's not busy(he's 20+ and soon to be married). PS I'm new here haha :lol:

[Whiteshield]

Originally Posted by Tom_Son

I believe the issue here is: why do people think that media (games, music, movies, ect) are a threat to their religion or beliefs.
I mean if one does truly believe in something that belief can't be shaken by something as trivial as a videogame. I think too much people see belief as something in witch to define themselves and as such take any objection as an personal attack opposed as to seeing religion as something you can use as a guideline to pesonal improvement.

Just my 2 cents on religion

No, I think people think it's a threat to them because:
1) Their religion may not have a strong foundation...(What you said)
2) I guess it sometimes might not be about religion. Parents just don't want their kids to be... Immoral.
3) I think misunderstood a bit. Videogames(sometimes the satanic ones), are kept from children because, as you know kids can be easily influenced.
4) Videogames are addictive. Maybe the parent spent endless hours playing TETRIS or PACMAN. He or she might not want his kid to waste his life away. I mean you should really enjoy life before you graduate high school because they're the most memorable years of your life. (Damn... I wasted mine too...)
5) :lol: No offense dude, what country are you from? I mean I'm not from America, the UK or Australia but I think my English is better than yours!

[Whiteshield]

Oh... Sorry but I just noticed it... The title is "Dawn of war entering religon?"

[Whiteshield]

Originally Posted by sage62

That's the stupidest thing ever, and it is people like your friends mom who make non christians look at them as preachers who force their religion upon people, I know some Christians and most of the time this is not true, however there are a good number of people who DO force their religion upon people, and feel that they themselves are infinitly superior to people who are ATheist, Agnostic, or any other religion, people like them give religion a bad name I myself have no problem with religion as long as people do not start tryign to convert me or something, that pisses me off beyond belief, my friends got in trouble for seeing The Golden Compass because according to her mom, the author of the book wants to kill Jesus, and no, I am not making this up
By the way, if anybody cares, I am an Atheist

OK mate... First off, I'm a Christian. Second, you're right. Nobody has the right to force religion on you. I mean, it should be shared. In truth, it's just about belief. You can call yourself an atheist, a jew, a muslim, but in the end, it's just about belief. You see, I believe like some of my few bros in individual soul liberty. I mean, you can't believe that doin good stuff can save you? NO... Can all the prayers in the world save you? NO... What will? No... I can't tell you now. Send me a message and I will. That way I'll know you're interested. No point in telling you if you don't wanna know. Seriously if you read my previous posts, PLENTY OF CHRISTIANS WILL BURN!!! Yep. I'm a Christian and I believe it. It doesn't matter which they belong to... Catholic, Protestant, etc. Without faith, how can you please God at all? What is it about the Golden Compass? I don't really know a rats arse 'bout the author. Most likely she must've been making it up. I mean the truth why me and my bros can't go watch a movie... People might stumble... What the hell am I talkin' about you say? I'll give you an example. You say you're a Christian, but you're acting like a jerk, a**hole, etc. or it's like - what if your wife caught you with another woman gettin' it down? Embarassing huh?... That's why I can't watch a movie at a THEATRE. I still watch movies at home. I try to control what I watch or people might think I'm a damn hypocrite preaching don't do this and that... blah blah... and all that but in reality doing stuff I shouldn't do.... Ugh... There! 2:05AM here... I'm goin to bed... PS Don't get down with another woman except your wife....ZZZzz...

[Benzin]

Ofcourse it could be found as an attack to Judeo-Christianic Mythology but it isn't. The thing that sets it aside is the fact that all the Gods are not symbols of faith, they actually exist, the four chaos Gods, the C'tan. The God Emperor of Mankind all exist.

Also we don't have a story of what happening in the 38,000 years between our time and their time, Religion may have been discovered, real Gods may have been found in the outer reaches of the universe. The Emperor is a human who reached Godlike status. But to sum my thoughts up. The Main Crux of the Imperium of Man is a religion, Chaos is also a religion. Necrons are servants to the Gods and the rest are just Godless rabble.

[Junk angel]

Actually, warhammer itself is based on the premise that we create our own gods, that not we are an image of the gods, but the gods are an image of us.

The emperor was pronounced a god by humans, not himself, the gods of chaos are based on our feelings and nothing else.
The only godlike gods are the C'tan.

[Bohemund]

Originally Posted by Tom_Son

Probably not, but why would it upset so many people, as I said it's only a story.
Not many people got offended by Star Wars (for example) and there's a diffenrent religion in that too, also based on some universal energie force.

But the jedi are the good guys!

I guess the sith could theoretically be seen as a parody of satanists... but nobody cares about satanists.

[Tom_Son]

Originally Posted by JohnR001

No, I think people think it's a threat to them because:
1) Their religion may not have a strong foundation...(What you said)
2) I guess it sometimes might not be about religion. Parents just don't want their kids to be... Immoral.
3) I think misunderstood a bit. Videogames(sometimes the satanic ones), are kept from children because, as you know kids can be easily influenced.
4) Videogames are addictive. Maybe the parent spent endless hours playing TETRIS or PACMAN. He or she might not want his kid to waste his life away. I mean you should really enjoy life before you graduate high school because they're the most memorable years of your life. (Damn... I wasted mine too...)
5) :lol: No offense dude, what country are you from? I mean I'm not from America, the UK or Australia but I think my English is better than yours!

0) You think there are absolutly no people who feel their religion is threathend by the media??? Maybe it's time to crawl from under that rock there and read a newspaper

1)thnx

2) religious people tend to get their moral standards from their religion

3&4) If thats the case why not use those arguments to get your kid to play outside and make friends and al that. Just explain that violence is wrong and that there are more things to life than playing video games instead of just saying : " You can't play that, it offends god"

5) some offence taken here. Well at least my english isn't perfect but I get acros what I have to say in 1 post.