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Old August 13th, 2007   #31
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Also why are people so upset about losing the duel shock? All it was was a little vibrating feature that i personally never payed much attention to nor found very important?
For a number of reasons. It was very well implemented. The first time i held a dual shock was when i was playing MGS and the hind helicopter flies over head. It starts as a gentle rumble, peaks to a good roar and then gentle peeters out. it was very cinematic and cued perfectly with the game.

Now we got a pissant motion sensing array that doesnt take into effect that not everybody plays with the damn gamepad facing vertical, i play with the thing horizontal as if it were laying flat on the table, so when i play certain games (COD3 among them) it requires me to position the joystick in an uncomfortable manner in order to proceed. its aggravating.

Plus lacking the centre weight kinda throws off the balance of the thing. but some people like really light joysticks so i wont fault it there.

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forgot how that little vibration = say kraitos being trough trough the wall in the beginning to god of war 2

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Oh but i thought the PS3 was ment to do everything and still be able to produce high end graphics at 60 fps, looks like $ony f***** up on that one, as usual.
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Oh but i thought the PS3 was ment to do everything and still be able to produce high end graphics at 60 fps, looks like $ony f***** up on that one, as usual.
Still does far more than the 360 can or will ever be able to do. The issue at hand now is that programming for it is a bitch. When you get lazy, sloppy ass games are the result (such as EA's PS3 versions). When they take their time, outstanding and smooth games such as Resistance and Lair are the result.

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Still does far more than the 360 can or will ever be able to do. The issue at hand now is that programming for it is a bitch. When you get lazy, sloppy ass games are the result (such as EA's PS3 versions). When they take their time, outstanding and smooth games such as Resistance and Lair are the result.
I'm curious, what can the PS3 do that you would consider "Far more" than the Xbox 360 capability? I don't intend to sound patronising, just curious.


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I'm curious, what can the PS3 do that you would consider "Far more" than the Xbox 360 capability? I don't intend to sound patronising, just curious.
it serves as a better paperweight. i bought a ps3 and although im bummed out that its 30fps for madden '08, ninja gaiden is 60fps and its pretty beast thus far, and i think im ok w/ my decision
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it serves as a better paperweight. i bought a ps3 and although im bummed out that its 30fps for madden '08, ninja gaiden is 60fps and its pretty beast thus far, and i think im ok w/ my decision
A paperweight. Hah.

I don't consider myself biased towards any console or system, but prefer to to weigh up the pros and cons of each system and then decide for myself on what is better.

While the FPS difference for Madden on the PS3 or 360 is enormous, it is one game. But that isn't to say there isn't or there won't be more. As long as you are happy with your decision, that's awesome. I'm happy for you.

But for me, I'd rather look at each console, the cost, hardware, and games selection are what influence my decision. And that is the 360. Superior graphics hardware, better online services, and a much wider games selection.


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I'm curious, what can the PS3 do that you would consider "Far more" than the Xbox 360 capability? I don't intend to sound patronising, just curious.
-Better backwards compatibility with a wider range of games
-better out of box dvd playback
-Blu-ray player (and yes, blu-ray has thoroughly owned HD-DVD as far as formats goes)
-in built bluetooth
-in built wifi connectivity

Thats just out the starting gate. If Sony holds up to its promises, then it will also have the Wii's 'download old ass games' feature, interconnectivity with PSP's and of course, a webcam to go with that nice little browser so that cam-whores can glam themselves in the playstations online network (blech)

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-Better backwards compatibility with a wider range of games
-better out of box dvd playback
-Blu-ray player (and yes, blu-ray has thoroughly owned HD-DVD as far as formats goes)
-in built bluetooth
-in built wifi connectivity

Thats just out the starting gate. If Sony holds up to its promises, then it will also have the Wii's 'download old ass games' feature, interconnectivity with PSP's and of course, a webcam to go with that nice little browser so that cam-whores can glam themselves in the playstations online network (blech)
As far as I know, the only things in your list that will appeal to a larger range audience is the backwards compatibility of games, and lets be honest, do you buy a next-generation system to play old games? While it is a useful feature and you may use it. It isn't a prime use.

The Blue-Ray Dvd player cost more than all of Sony's hardware put together, and to even get the Blue-Ray quality, you need to purchase the Blue-Ray variant of the Dvd, might as well just throw out all our old Dvd's and purchase Blue Ray eh? Now that the PS3 gives us that ability to do so?

In built Bluetooth.. I'm at a loss here.. what use will this have to the general audience?

Same goes for Wi-Fi, I understand this is a prime feature for those with wireless networks, yet that is still a small minority of internet users today. So not much use.

The things that make a console are it's cost vs. value and games selection. The only reason the PS3 got a price cut was to clear out all the cheaper variants so they could focus on producing the version with a larger hard-drive.


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As far as I know, the only things in your list that will appeal to a larger range audience is the backwards compatibility of games, and lets be honest, do you buy a next-generation system to play old games? While it is a useful feature and you may use it. It isn't a prime use.
Tell that to Nintendo, their entire strategy is based around reselling the same old games over and over and over again.

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The Blue-Ray Dvd player cost more than all of Sony's hardware put together, and to even get the Blue-Ray quality, you need to purchase the Blue-Ray variant of the Dvd, might as well just throw out all our old Dvd's and purchase Blue Ray eh? Now that the PS3 gives us that ability to do so?
Im not a tech head nor do i claim to be. The 40+ inch HD TV in my apartment? my roomates, the PS3, his as well. but the movies DO look nice on blu-ray and if you havent noticed, theyve been cranking out an ever increasing amount of bluray movies. Theyre making them for a reason as that means somebodies buying them and since the PS3 is the cheapest BR player on the market...yeah its a decent strategy. helped the PS2 along back in the day if i recall.

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In built Bluetooth.. I'm at a loss here.. what use will this have to the general audience?
apparently people like adding all kinds of peripherials to their system but dont like the cords that attach them. i may be wrong on this one though. use a keyboard? bluetooth. extra gamepads that dont require individual ports? bluetooth. connect your other little doodads like a mouse or whatnot? apparently blutooth.

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Same goes for Wi-Fi, I understand this is a prime feature for those with wireless networks, yet that is still a small minority of internet users today. So not much use.

The things that make a console are it's cost vs. value and games selection. The only reason the PS3 got a price cut was to clear out all the cheaper variants so they could focus on producing the version with a larger hard-drive.
well since every new motherboard sold today has wifi inbuilt, and virtually every new piece of hardware is designed to utilize it, yeah wifi is pretty f--- important in the bigscheme of things. Its the main selling point to a retarded amount of equipment and as more people are likely to have wifi than hardlines in their house, it makes since to make your console able to use it. Live in an apartment? wifi will save your ass since your rarely allowed to drill lines for cable. Same goes for those who multitask. some folks have only a laptop instead of a whole desktop PC so guess what kind of connect they use. The best part about wifi is it exploits a net market that MS cant touch. PS3 CAN be hardline to a cable router, but also doesnt HAVE to be. if you fail to see the importance of wifi nowadays, well....
You might be young though so these kind of things might not be readily apparent.

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