Side note about online play. Sony have made it so that game developers can charge you to play their games online on the Ps3.


So online play isn't going to be free on the Ps3.

Thats what was strange ;).

Mine was a core system and I've not had a problem with it since buying it over a year ago.


(Note it's fully upgraded now)

Ive always favored my Xbox to my PS (both iterations) when it came to owning a game that was available for both consoles simply because of the Xbox better average performance (i also like the controller better). Sports games have ALWAYS been Xboxs domain, its what made live popular when the console first came out. EA knows this and practically purpose builds their sports games to rain silky on the hardware.
Now if GTA rolls and sucks balls on the PS3, well. you might as well sound the salute cause that console will be dead.

Sony has as of late pissed me off, first with removing the Dual Shock and replacing it with the atrocious 6 axis and then trying to force games to utilize its gimmicky nature. Im all for violently swinging my gamepad to buttstroke some noob in Resistance but i prefer using a button because it doesnt delay my tactile response for the NEXT guy charging around the corner. the upcoming warhawk i hear is going to make heavy use of the 6 axis joystick and this makes me shudder.

Lets keep this on topic please. I don't know where the Madden 08 stuff came from.

It IS on topic. Asking about a comparison between the 2 consoles and then engaging in a direct comparison between 1 of the most popular game franchises around that is available for both systems kinda lends support to one side of the argument.

just humor me for a sec could you post a list of all your upgrades including live and your base system and all their cost next to each upgrade and the just tally it up for me

I actually did the same thing...they were out of the Platinum models during release so I ended up getting a Core and upgrading it. So..lets see...

Core system = $300
HD = $100
XBL = $50 a year.

And a grand total of $450.

Later on I also bought 2 wireless controllers and another wired one. Which came out to about $140. If you wanna add that in its $590. That gives you 360, HD, Xboxlive, and 4 controllers. Pretty much good to go.

see theres my point to all the people saying how much more expensive the PS3 is. the PS3 already has the HD-DVD player in the form of blue ray, online is free and i don't see any company charging for it any time in the future. and after the price drop and trading in my old ps2 and 14 ps2 games with plenty left over that i could have traded in i actually paid less for my PS3 and i still have the extra controllers, online, and I'm up to 4 games.

Now and frankly lets face it both systems are damn similar. Yes people are going to say you don't have to upgrade it but lets face it from what I've seen almost every one is making the cost about the same for both systems

Also why are people so upset about losing the duel shock? All it was was a little vibrating feature that i personally never payed much attention to nor found very important?

The Dualshock made you feel like you were in the game! You can feell all the carnage you were making.