company of heroes another game that rip off money???

[badger-dude]

Probably due to Game-balance.... And because people like the OP would cry because the Americans arent the best

[L!ght str!keR]

Try: Heroes: soldiers of WW2. This game has a close thing to describing the use of tiger vs. sherman, but it's not as good as it was in reality. Thing is that tiger had 100mm thick armor in front, 86 on side and 80 on rear (even though it had it's gas tanks there, they made no difference). So tell me that even firefly which had better AP abbilities then regular sherman it could only efectively destroy tiger from behind. Face it, the thing is germans thought infantry supports tanks, and americans thought tanks support infantry, and that's the reason why sherman sucked and almost all german tanks ruled the battlefield.
Just tell me, what could 20 shermans do agains 1 maus tank? think of that

[badger-dude]

Gas tanks make no differance eh? I beg to differ. I assume your talking about the Tiger I.... Also the Germans fielded tanks in large numbers compared to the allied tanks infantry support role.

Oh and another thing that has been bugging me..... Why would Shermans being crap make the game a rip off?

[Lord of War]

Hey there folks! Guess what i just did! I wrote a long ass post about how to defeat german tanks and hit the go advanced tab

[Kruniac]

Someone will mod the game to make it ultra-realistic, and add new units.

They did it with DoW, they'll do it here.

[HLBMXR]

Originally Posted by Kruniac

Someone will mod the game to make it ultra-realistic, and add new units.

I am, that someone.

[KillingHawk_GER]

The new patches make it totally unrealistic, now StuG's really blow Shermans away like it's nothing.
And StuG's weren't even strong, they weren't even tanks.

StuG's were self propelled artillery, they were more effective at longer ranger, but in close battles a Sherman wouldn't really encounter much trouble, then the Sherman would normally have an advantage over the StuG.

I really don't want to mess up, but the 7,5 cm StuK 40 L/48 AT-Gun of the StugIII could penetrate a 80mm thick armor with an maximum angle of 60° from the side... over a range above 1km...
But its big advantage was the low profile.... so it was a hard job to spot them from a the view of a driving Sherman.

MFG

KillingHawk

[Kruniac]

Originally Posted by KillingHawk_GER

I really don't want to mess up, but the 7,5 cm StuK 40 L/48 AT-Gun of the StugIII could penetrate a 80mm thick armor with an maximum angle of 60° from the side... over a range above 1km...
But its big advantage was the low profile.... so it was a hard job to spot them from a the view of a driving Sherman.

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KillingHawk

They use the StuG IV in the game.

Not sure what the difference is, but I am sure that someone can tell us, heh.

[KillingHawk_GER]

Ups, it's the wrong number, but the weapon is the same :
7,5 cm StuK 40 L/48... they only took the panzerIV base and put the StugIII
Weaponshield on it.... so it's like an advanced StugIII.

P.s.: You can be lucky that they took only the TigerIE into CoH, because the
Jagdpanzer VI Jagdtiger was even more devastating...
with his 12,8 cm Pak 44 he could fire through the front and rear armor of a Sherman, if the projectile doesn't explode and paint the interier of the tank in red and black


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KillingHawk

[Bys0n]

Originally Posted by junwang0808

ok guys.........
there are a lot more units in company of heroes than just those serval units.
specially tanks there are only a limited choice of tanks.

guess what the flame thrower on the tank suck asss

6 sherman got raped by 2 german panthers?? what the duce???
last play i got like 80 percent of the map. guess what? serval panthers just rape all my shermans. shermans simply does no damage or really little damage vsing panthers if not attack the REAR ARMOR

totally got raped like 10 tanks got raped by like 2 panthers and some artillery units


though the grahpic is great? and the enviroment is totally destoryable. so what? just a little more realistic? but i don't think in the real WW2 you fight with this little troops?

online: the online server is all about P2P -- person to person . thats why it lags like fuck and a lot of times it says can not join a game.

just like www.rakion.com the game.. use P2P the first year of this game. it is like really crappy 60 percent of the time u can't join a game due to can not connect to other players


another problem. infantry units are like completly useless later in the game.

only the artillery units are useful

remember we have some kind of anti tank bomb that our infantries can throw? well you know well i tried 5 squads of infantries threw them together at a panther. guess what? no real damage is really done. still can take out 2 shermans..


so in most games tanks are really the dominate units. infantries are like uselesss. really useless they are like scouts everytime you send them out there is like no return.


everytime comes to tanks there are not really any strategy. specially massive tank battle. the Allies always lose !! always !! lose !! you can call off map artillery so what? the axis got missles which are stronger, more, and wide range, also faster. 1 missle strike from the axis and then serval hits from their tanks. your tanks are mostly wiped out. and your off map artillery can only do a maxium of 40 - 50 % damage on their tank even a direct hit !!

although sherman can fire smokescreen so what? everytime you fire them your enemy just run away !! what is waste of mutition! !!!


there are a lot of upgrades.... but i think this game is just gonna be like the other game RISE AND FALL civilizations at war. looks really good at first but after serval more times. it sux !!



snipers they are really gay....... 5 snipers can take out all the infantry units you have trust me... and can just go into your base without any of your units noticing. and call artillery or air support and bomb the shit out of you !! which is so gay... they are so hard to be discovered. and even u discovered and call your units to follow and attack them. your units will lose them soon after you clicked on them



to be continued............

Dont take this the wrong way mate but your a muppet lol

RTS is an abbreviation of Real Time STRATEGY, and you are wrong I think that the realism for the game is actually quite good, your right head on a sherman does get pwned by almost every other tank in the game but guess what, they did in WW2 aswell, The sherman was not a very good tank in comparison to its german counter parts infact it was only its sheer numbers of production and deployment which gave it any chance at all, attacking a tank from the rear was the only real way of disabling or destroying a Panzer IV or above (tiger etc) and tactics to ambush or put tanks in that postion became the allied forces only advantage, lucky for all of us by the end of the war they had got really good at it obviously... Technology wise the Axis forces were far superior to allied and the game represents that like it should all you need to do is take the S out of RTS and plan your defenses and attack.

Your infantry remark is just daft admitedly againt armor unless they are equipped they arent much use, but if your sending infantry to fight a tank u dont really understand the concept behind strengths and abilitys of units, the allied never did adopt the Japanese kamikaze tactic and they never did actually strap a bomb to Joe Average's chest and send him hurtling towards a piece of armor so what makes you think it should be possible in the game bewilders me lol.

At the end of the day if you want a game where everything is evenly balanced and a squad of german rifleman can destroy a tank by firing at it for a minute or two there is a great little beginners RTS game called command & conquer Red Alert, that might be more to your liking

For all you real strategy minded people get this game, graphics are great, detail just outright amazing and realism, well real enough. You wont be dissapointed!