25721

August 5th, 2002 04:39 PM

No, the Defiant lacks the massive payload of the Galaxy, and the Galaxy can take a good deal more punishment. I think of the Defiant as a vessel ment to go into battle WITH other ships.
As for Bridge Commander. I fought a Defiant comp with a Galaxy and won The Defiant got through my shields a couple of times, but nothing compared to the punishment I delt it! Also, what I noticed when battling the Defiant, which could be a major disadvantage to it's compactness, is that, even when using Phasers, because the Defiant is so compact, more than one system would take severe damage after repeated attacks. Often the two systems that'd take damage simulatiously, would be the impulse and warp drive...not good for the Defiant. In fact, it would often be the death of it.

25803

August 5th, 2002 08:11 PM

The defiant was made for the dominion war. By then the galaxy class was outdated. It is only knowlageable that the defiant is better.

25860

August 6th, 2002 12:32 AM

"Try to remember it takes more than a big gun to win a shootout. Experience and skill will always triumph."

- Gregory MacCray

29187

August 15th, 2002 02:51 PM

Might I add that Nine of Nine's defiant is too strong for it's own good? Another Defiant facing it could barely scratch it's shielding. A sovereign didn't do any damage whatsoever...I'm talking about version 1.5...is the previous one any weaker? I don't think a ship of that size could produce enough power for such strong shielding...it seems alittle unreal. The manouverability I agree with, but the shields and hull are far too strong. I'm sorry to critique but it's true.

29247

August 15th, 2002 05:15 PM

As long as there is a Defiant, there will always be people who think it's "Too Weak" or "Too Strong". There is no such thing as a happy medium. There are people who believe the Defiant should be able to blow away an Ambassador with one shot, others who think it shouldn't be able to win against one.

Nine of Nine's is a compromise, and a damn good one at that. It's scaled right, and armed properly. It's a BATTLESHIP, what do you expect?

29251

August 15th, 2002 05:31 PM

Yeah, it's a battleship, that's right, but you can only go so far. When a battleship beats a state of the art Sovereign, then you know something's wrong...Besides, there's no way the warp core can generate that much power and shield generator that much shielding...it should be manouverable, but not too tough to beat...no torpedoes ever hit this thing!! If it's a battleship then how come the defiant got so badly damaged by the borg cube in FC being part of such a large fleet? this thing can single-handedly take out the Borg sphere up for download on bcfiles.com!

LOL. Between the two of us, we're posting like crazy around here...lol. I almost have as many posts as you do! A little friendly competition, perhaps?

29269

August 15th, 2002 06:35 PM

Ehhh, head over to http://www.groundbc.com and go into the forums. I am ther under the same name. Compete with THAT post count.

Sign up there while you're at it. It's a great forum.

As for balance: When it comes to a community of independent modders, balance is impossible. Each person has their own idea of how strong a ship should be, and Canon Trek doesen't exactly help in this regard. Want balance? do it yourself. Not trying to be a jerk, that's just what I think.

29289

August 15th, 2002 06:55 PM

Yeah you're right. I would probably do it myself if i had the technological know-how but I can't. Imagine my frustration having to ask people to help me out...but I must say, the Models of the ship look absolutely stunning, as well as everything else about them, except that little thing about the hardpoint file. If you ask me, Activision should have released some sort of chart or something with that stuff in anticipation of a groupe of people looking to mod the game. It would have been most helpful and they might have been looked at in a better light.

As for the other forum...everything looks very well organized and I could have lots of fun in that community...although i doubt i have countless hours in front of my computer, trying to reach your post count...lol...so much for that idea.

29300

August 15th, 2002 07:11 PM

Ahhh it's a fun place anyway. No, you won't reach my count, but new members are always needed and welcomed.

30900

August 19th, 2002 02:59 PM

Well i would say that the Nine of Nine's defiant is dead on, just the right anount of fire power to kill a bop in no time at all, and if you watch way of the warrior, which everyone must have by now, you would of seen her kill them in seconds, now the borg did take out the defiant in FC, but if you work it out, it took the enterprise about 8 hours to get back to earth, and thats at max warp, so that means that the defiant was fighting for all of those 8 hours, so the borg didnt just take her out like she was nothing, now if you only have the the stock version of the the sov class then yes the defiant will kick the crap out of it, its to weak anyway, and i have found that its 50/50 with the defaint vs galaxy match, and the only way to know for sure is to allow the computer to control both ships, and see which one wins, if you use one of the ships them you will win, and thats because you think of things that the AI wont, also i have only played with Nine of nine's defiant, she is a beautiful ship and great fun to use, and when i get a new ship i always test it with the defiant to see how powerful it is.