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tharulerme October 19th, 2006 07:19 AM

BF2142, good or flop?
 
I definately say flop.

First off all, they really had to give us a worthless singleplayer, only 5 maps with a max of 16 bots, and only on conquest, now are we happy! Also on singleplayer all bots have all unlocks and you have like - nothing.

As second, they didn't even took the time to create multiplayer as it is supposed to be, it got almsot every BF2 bug and also there are already aimbotters and wallhackers. Which were also in the demo already, but that they won't take time to protect the demo I could understand, but this just ruins it.
Apart from that, the filtering system isn't working, there is actually no such things as multiplayer Co-op which lovely EA and Dice do say it contains and way more.

Really I wish I didn't bought it....

The only good thing about this is the titan multiplayer gameplay, but that is also ruined because in every server each day there are only people who don't know what to do and they all go the wrong way, so it's pointless. Not even mentioning the auto die bug which is back again - hurray.
Also not to mention the overactive cheaters we already got, there are tons of people who are already shooting through walls....
And one thing not to mention either, the lag, dunno on what host EA and Dice are, but it's very laggy.
And not to mention that in the begin you haven't even got one grenade, just a weapon a knife and a pistol.

Post your opinions about BF2142 please!

(Please note, this is my opinion and some facts. I am not insulting the game nor the creators.)

- Tharulerme

Nittany Tiger October 19th, 2006 07:27 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Wow.

I've heard a lot of negative opinions lately about the game (especially the spyware and in-game ad rumor). Almost makes me want to take my pre-order back.

I hope the money I pay for it is worth it.

And about the cheaters, I'm sure they'll kick them out soon enough. If a server admin is smart enough, they'll know how to catch them and ban them.

Also, about the shooting through walls, I'll see if that's a glitch and not cheating nor part of the game.

tharulerme October 19th, 2006 07:39 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
It's not a glitch, there ARE cheaters who ARE cheating (or they use aimbot or wallhack or whatever).

And to insult them but the EA staff won't do anything about it, those (*bad word*) "admins" from EA and Dice only ban people who help them catch and report cheaters.

And server admins aren't in the game so when you say that someone is cheating they probably won't believe you.



Anyway we just need mod's soon, we need a program that makes the soldiers in SP be with more, and also to have titan mode and all 10 maps compatible with SP.

Dark Saint October 19th, 2006 08:29 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Ok .... this is a call to arms. Anyone who is able to code a game and model and do whatever else we need to do to make a great game, needs to post asap. /joke

You are going to have cheaters in EVERY GAME ... This is NOTHING new. GET OVER IT. Nothing is perfect ... I realise the game has it's drawbacks. Take it back , put up a bitch session and take it back .... Retailers have to take some responsibility for selling crap. That is why i get my games from an EB retailer in most cases. They have a return policy. I may pay more with them, but i am not stuck like the majority of the people.

I am not saying the game is perfect, but it seems like people think the problems going on are brand new to only dice.

ONCE AGAIN: NOTHING TO DO WITH EA< THEY DIDN'T DO ONE MICRO OF THE CODING.

tharulerme October 19th, 2006 10:46 PM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Well I know, in every game are cheaters, but I am kinda sick of it that EA and Dice care so less about it.

Well, they do SAY they care, but when I send pictures with real proof from cheaters in BF2 (really you can see it) they just resetted me along them.

Anyway apart that I don't like EA or Dice it's still not meant to insult them.

I do kinda regret my words, apart from all the bugs I encountered so far, I found some nice servers where I didn't spotted some wallhackers or so yet, and then the game really get's cool and fair.

As though all of that, the gameplay do kicks all of those bad things away.

Commie October 19th, 2006 11:12 PM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tharulerme (Post 3298489)
First off all, they really had to give us a worthless singleplayer, only 5 maps with a max of 16 bots, and only on conquest, now are we happy! Also on singleplayer all bots have all unlocks and you have like - nothing.


:giggle:

Brace yourself, Merrick...

RagNoRock October 20th, 2006 01:00 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Good ^_^

Havent had many servers with lagg problesm (when I do encounter them I leave)

Haven't seen any one cheating or haxing and I end up around the top on most ocasions.

Only had 1 or 2 crashes on the first day and none since.

Haven't experianced this "Instant Die" bug you refer to, what is it?

Love the vehicle/Infantry balance (hate titans raining down death on a silo constantly >_<.

Also there are Bots in Multi-player (or I have seen servers that say they have bots, havent joined as I prefer people, they were even ranked servers)

Loving the Field Unlocks which are Really easy to get (have gotten all 10 unlocks on a few occasions :)). They really encurage Teamwork by doing what your bloody squad leader tells you to do.

Great game, 100% worth the 14 bloody hours I spend on wensday trying to get it ASAP >_<.

RagNoRock October 20th, 2006 01:02 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Bloody laggy server :*(

RagNoRock October 20th, 2006 01:03 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Doh!

Commie October 20th, 2006 03:08 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
My friend bought it and apparently you need to set up an online account to actually play (and he got no slip of spyware doom). Well he's buggered, because he doesn't have the net on his computer. :(

tharulerme October 20th, 2006 05:53 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Man! The bug of the year!

There is a bug in BF2142 (I have no idea what causes it) but it causes that BF2142 autmatically uninstalls itself???

What the hell! And you don't even know when it is!

(+5@1312EWULFX+) October 22nd, 2006 07:44 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
LoL, I swear ive never heard so much made up bs. When I first heard about bf2142 I thought it would suck then I acctualy bought it and it was well worth it. Theres no spyware and no bug that will make the game uninstall itself its all rumors and lies.

Commie October 22nd, 2006 08:29 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 

(yup, I made that myself...)

PC Chipmunk October 22nd, 2006 10:24 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
I have played the game for over 20 hours according to X-fire , I havent yet seen any cheating or hacking of any type.I havent experienced any bugs besides the rank system taking a while to update.So far I am enjoying the game alot.The whole unlock system and ranks and the gameplay which encourages teamwork is exactly what I wanted.

Not only that but the whole spyware thing? - blown out of proportion.

I havent seen any ads in all my time playing so far...you dont even think about adverts, you just get on and enjoy the game.

dazguns October 22nd, 2006 05:13 PM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
well so far game works OK in fact it loads faster than BF2 only bug at the mo is the awards not working. hope EA will fix soon.:)

The Joelteon7 October 22nd, 2006 06:29 PM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pc chipmunk (Post 3306553)
I have played the game for over 20 hours according to X-fire , I havent yet seen any cheating or hacking of any type.I havent experienced any bugs besides the rank system taking a while to update.So far I am enjoying the game alot.The whole unlock system and ranks and the gameplay which encourages teamwork is exactly what I wanted.

Not only that but the whole spyware thing? - blown out of proportion.

I havent seen any ads in all my time playing so far...you dont even think about adverts, you just get on and enjoy the game.

Heh, I agree with all of that, but I "might" have beaten your 20 hours...just 150 points away from my big new sniper rifle.

Oh, and it's awesome. I've seen no adverts, it runs seemlessly, even on my just-above-min-spec computer (granted on low textures...but it still looks great) and it's generally very enjoyable.

SVD_Sniper October 23rd, 2006 07:04 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Above, someone said EA arent responsible for the code. Thats wrong.
They dont code, correct however they DO have control/responsibility over what goes in. EA should say :
"look this aspect of the game is %&£$ so unless you pull you finer out your &^&* *^78, and *&£$% do it properly, we wont publish it."
They have every right to do that and it is part of "quality control". Teh reason they dont do so is because it increases turnaround time and therefore they have to wait for a large capital injection to fund another project. However, given that EA (apparently ) dont care about releasing sub-standard stuff then dice should say
" %&£$ , we've done it again - lets fix it this time guys!" .
Both EA and Dice need a lesson in economics, business strategy and possibly even morality.

RUSSIANCOMRADE : have you ever considered para-military action against their (EA/dice) offices? :naughty: Are you free fridays? lol


*Phew*

der_zixed October 23rd, 2006 07:28 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
i actually think its good, the spyware is not bad it actually just looks at ur internet cookies to see wat sites uve been on then puts the ads ingame

Quote:

Originally Posted by SVD_Sniper (Post 3308909)

RUSSIANCOMRADE : have you ever considered para-military action against their (EA/dice) offices? :naughty: Are you free fridays? lol

i will help

SVD_Sniper October 23rd, 2006 10:24 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Yer the ads are ok, because maybe EA/Dice will use the money to improve their next game?

Oh and thanks for the para-military offer, I may start the EALF (ea liberation front!!!!)

RagNoRock October 23rd, 2006 10:27 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zixed01 (Post 3308944)
i actually think its good, the spyware is not bad it actually just looks at ur internet cookies to see wat sites uve been on then puts the ads ingame


i will help

It does not look at your cookies....

swartsengagger October 23rd, 2006 11:11 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
BF2142 ownes bigtime i love it good graphics, nice gameplay maybe a bit to few vehicles but its ok and personalisation on the kits rulez and the in-server unlock love'm

grtz

yWizePapaSmurfy October 23rd, 2006 08:54 PM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
This is the first time I've seen a MODERATOR actually complain about cheaters...Now let me be gone before I get whipped for laughing at such things.

Commie October 23rd, 2006 10:59 PM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SVD_Sniper (Post 3308909)
RUSSIANCOMRADE : have you ever considered para-military action against their (EA/dice) offices? :naughty: Are you free fridays? lol


I'm free Friday...

...but BfV and BF42 are good enough to save them...

FN_lewrbm69 October 23rd, 2006 11:53 PM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
I am all about the sci fi so i say Good.

RagNoRock October 24th, 2006 02:03 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FN_lewrbm69 (Post 3311085)
I am all about the sci fi so i say Good.

Mod vs Mod!

Battle to the death!

:smokin:

tharulerme October 25th, 2006 06:19 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yWizePapaSmurfy (Post 3310881)
This is the first time I've seen a MODERATOR actually complain about cheaters...Now let me be gone before I get whipped for laughing at such things.

If you think that the word "cheater" is only a legend, you should be the one laughed at.

Seriously, if you never even heard from aimbot or wallhack or whatever those people already invented, I should say: Look better.

In BF2142 you cannot be one hit killed unless a headshot with a sniper, a grenade, or a knife or a vehicle. But some people just one hit you with a regular weapon when you have full health. That's abnormal. There is a chance that every time it's the auto-damage bug, like back in BF but in both cases it would be EA's and Dice's fault, since OR they would include bad cheat protection and they won't do anything about it, OR they just can't patch.

By the way, we moderators / admins are people too. If you think a moderator/ admin haves to be an Uber gamer that never complains if they spot someone with impossible skills, then you are really wrong. Most people anyway don't talk about it since it's useless since EA and Dice won't take care of it anyway. But you understand me. I am just the noisy guy who IS speaking, and that is just me, sorry :).

RagNoRock October 25th, 2006 07:32 PM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Rockets, APM and Shotguns can 1 hit kill too :P

I find myself using the Pilum to 1 hit people alot :)

Also sometimes the SMG can fire so fast while hitting head and body that the person dies near instantly. Kinda the same thing holds true with the Light Assault gun and the Recon carbine.

yWizePapaSmurfy October 25th, 2006 07:40 PM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tharulerme (Post 3313941)
If you think that the word "cheater" is only a legend, you should be the one laughed at.

Seriously, if you never even heard from aimbot or wallhack or whatever those people already invented, I should say: Look better.

In BF2142 you cannot be one hit killed unless a headshot with a sniper, a grenade, or a knife or a vehicle. But some people just one hit you with a regular weapon when you have full health. That's abnormal. There is a chance that every time it's the auto-damage bug, like back in BF but in both cases it would be EA's and Dice's fault, since OR they would include bad cheat protection and they won't do anything about it, OR they just can't patch.

By the way, we moderators / admins are people too. If you think a moderator/ admin haves to be an Uber gamer that never complains if they spot someone with impossible skills, then you are really wrong. Most people anyway don't talk about it since it's useless since EA and Dice won't take care of it anyway. But you understand me. I am just the noisy guy who IS speaking, and that is just me, sorry :).

That's great, some moderators on other forums think they are superior to me. Like right now you are, in a sense, telling me I am an idiot for just posting "blah blah" and thought it was funny.

I never said I never noticed no such thing as wall-hacking and stuff. But the typical response is "It'll be eventually fixed" This is, after all, only days after the game has been released, so I wouldn't be blaming it just yet.

So I'm sorry, is it that wrong to find humor in some of the most grave situations? ;) And trust me, if people are creative enough, there will always be exploiting in any kind of competitive play. I have learned not to complain about "hacks" because I know there are tons of servers out there, and if one has a hacker in it, it's not like he's getting any concrete, real satisfaction out of it. He gets no money, no pride, no "Wow, that's awesome!" or anything. Just their lonely selves in a dark room with nothing going on in their lives.

SVD_Sniper October 26th, 2006 02:36 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
I wonder if we could start a buisness based on cheating. E.g. We go online with an aimbot with 360 degrees PoV and get some great K/D ratio - AND ALL THE UNLOCKS, and then sell the account to someone with 56K who cant play online. It wont matter that the account gets banned from 70% of servers because the buyer of the account is SP only! That way ppl can use unlocks without MP! (oh and dont mention the Objects_Server (well the 2142 equivilant) file to the customers.......)

Mad Cat October 28th, 2006 02:38 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
what irritates me about BF2142, is that it takes half a clip to kill a guy, and for this 1 small stupid reason, im not gonna buy it.
long live FH where the worst you can do is about 3 shot kill, now thats realism!

Homer Gonerson October 28th, 2006 11:09 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tharulerme (Post 3298516)
And server admins aren't in the game so when you say that someone is cheating they probably won't believe you.

That's because you have no proof.
They only see anyone who accuses someone of a hacker as a whiny n00b who needs to be kicked and go suck on another server.

(+5@1312EWULFX+) October 28th, 2006 11:14 AM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
ive heard of the aimbot and other trainers but never came accross anyone acctually useing them and ive played the game a long time.

tharulerme October 31st, 2006 10:47 PM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Homer Gonerson (Post 3321780)
That's because you have no proof.
They only see anyone who accuses someone of a hacker as a whiny n00b who needs to be kicked and go suck on another server.

Yeah, but they I mean, they don't do anything at all. They won't even go to chase that person in game to find out if (for example, if the accuse would be a god mode or so, which I didn't enocuntered yet though) to see if they can kill him. That's for server admins, but the EA admins won't do anything at all, only when you get proof you can be able to get a little bit of back up from them. But it's really impossible from them to ask to make a screenshot from them while doing it, since making a screenshot from an aimbotter that kills you in 1 hit would be impossible.

coolduderyan07 November 1st, 2006 04:28 PM

Re: BF2142, good or flop?
 
You just don't get it, name one game that doesn't have hackers using some sort of cheat, lets say aimbot. Yea pong, and pacman might not have aimbot, but you can manipulate the game to no end, maybe to the point where you could get headshots. In every game ive played ive encountered at least one hacker. You can use hacking as one of the cons of this game to an extent. When EA decides they don't care about hacking/cheating, and provide no support in defending against it, then yes that's when u can start complaining that the game sucks cuz of hackers. You have no right to be saying now, that the game is a flop because of the cheaters, whom have barely even been witnessed. Every game has its hackers, no matter what, it's un-avoidable. Do you know how hard it is to make an aimbot, yea it might be easy to a novice coder, and maybe easier to get your hands on one, but do you know how much harder it is do defend against something like that? The only thing that could prevent these hackers is a weekly update, that manipulates a core, code which makes the hack tool not valid, and useless. Now the once the coder figures out the code change, and tweaks his aimbot/trainer... he will get it back in business, just to find another update to mess with the code, and make the trainer not work. Now i say, if he has to go through the trouble of changing his code every week.. let him have his hacks, until one day he realizes what a joke he is. Now there may be a way around this, but not many are willing to find out.


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