The real Battlefield 2
 

This is the real Battlefield 2

http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1123078209

Please tell me your thoughts.

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That looks fun :D. God, I would LOVE to be there... awesome.

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My thoughts, Gridley, it was an interesting little vid, but I have seen it many times before, and Phoenix_CRXsi, we are playing a game here, and ppl are dying there, and that sounds like fun to you?

Suggest you seriously re-examine your sense of values.

AK

:smokin:

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I want to be there because I want to fight for my country. Is there a problem with that? Yes, it sounds like fun to be in a battle, to be able to fire real weapons and use REAL teamwork, and REAL military tactics. A game just doesn't cut it, the real thing would be amazing, and like I said, I'd be fighthing for my country, and what I believe in, yes, I would consider that fun.

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I'm sure most people who've fought in a war wouldnt describe it as fun.
Life changing, Life damaging, Eye opening perhaps, not fun....

Slim

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I'm not most people...

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it always seems like fun, till your actually there.

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***SIDE NOTE OFF TOPIC***
Gridley ... Please re-upload your avatar.
****Back on topic*****
That isn't fun, that is being a marine, and doing a real job. That isn't fun to anyone who has been there and done it. NOBODY who serves in the military describes it as fun. They walk on the edge of death everyday. That isn't fun, that is life threatening...
How old are you ? and maybe you should join a rifle/ gun club to have fun.
I have the utmost respect for the men and woman who are doing a job that some don't believe they should be over there for.
They are the ones that get up day in and day out protecting my freedoms and liberties to which i give thanks for everyday.
They are the ones who do not get up day in and day out, because some "child's " idea of fun, got them killed with a bullet to the brain base, their head taken off, killed by a suicide bomber, walking over a jumping susan, and so on and so forth.
FUN ? wth do you know about fun? You are sitting here in a forums posting about fun. Do you know what it is like to take a life. To look at that face day in and day out, haunting your dreams, cause you were told to do it ?
do you know what it is to see a body dismembered in untidy pieces by a frag grenade? the smell of charred flesh wafting over a breeze? Unburried bodies wasting away under hot sun? The look of shallow graves with children stuck in them ?
And this is your idea of fun?
PLEASE!!!! i beg you not to post further. Cause i think i would lose my moderatorship in this forum to put you in your place.

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wow... you certainly have issues. once again, YES, i believe it would be fun to fight for your county... I'm 18 by the way, since you asked. I didn't say it would be fun to die, or to face death, I said it would be fun to FIGHT for life, and freedom. The freedom that you so clearly state you are thankful for. I never said it would be fun to see dead bodies, or to kill someone, I said it would be fun to... once again here... say it with me -- FIGHT FOR FREEDOM. Jeez you people take things way too personally. I WANT TO GO TO WAR, I WANT TO JOIN THE MILITARY, but I can't because of my record, so whatever. Many other people want to join the military, and if it wasn't for people like me, WE WOULDN'T HAVE AN ARMY, we wouldn't have people out there fighting for the freedom that you are "thankful" for. It's thanks to people like me that people like you even HAVE freedom, because without people like me, there would BE no more freedom for people like you to be thankful for, because no one would be willing to fight for it. Think about THAT before you post again, moderator or not.

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I have thought about that ... And people like you in military are the reason why the good people get killed.
Those who think it is fun to run around helter skelter.
People who join the military know it is a job... NOT FUN.

You said:
Then you say:
WTH DO YOU THINK WAR IS ? WHAT DO YOU THINK A FIGHT IS ?
obviously you think it is fun. so the whole aspect of war to you ( say it with me boys and girls )is fun
Do you think you won't see dead bodies?( fun)
Do you think you won't be shot at ?( more fun)
do you think you won't die?( damn what a grand party and more fun)
Yes death is the grandest of all adventures so suredly that must be fun.

There is nobody in the military like you, they are all disciplined and understand what it is to do the job that they have set forth. and going out on ops, most assuredly is not described by them as fun.

Leave real war with those that can handle it. You by your own admissions have already said you don't know right from wrong so you (even at your advanced age of 18 years young ) have no idea what-so-ever what it is to have fun.

why don't you think on that for abit.

** ZARGO ** i would have left that post . You were right on target.

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http://forums.filefront.com/image.ph...0&type=profile

There you go. That's my response.

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well at least you can be funny when you are wrong .... Take a bow.

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He says it like its a game, wars not fun

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I think the phrase war is fun is an american think, because did you hear them the soliders, they also sort of think its a game?

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Having met an RAF chopper crewman who came back from Iraq the day before just last week, I can assure you all that war is NOT fun.

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Go easy guys... I think the point he is trying to make is that he would be honored to serve his country and fight for our way of life, and that is a noble thing. However, his choice of words may not be appropriate. War is not "fun", obviously, but a better choice of words might be that it would be "rewarding" or "gratifying" to serve in the armed forces, and make a difference.

At least that's what it sounds to me like he means...

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No, I don't get that impression at all, it was only after ppl started criticising him that he took that tack. He genuinely things killing ppl is "fun", as long as a) it's other ppl and, b) he can get away without being charged with any crime.

This is to say the least strange. A person who detests war and death, the murder of children (and I don't care if it is war, you kill a child its murder and you should be held accountable), is described as having "issues".

The impression I get is that Phoenix_CRX wants to go to war so that he can shoot guns at other ppl with no consequences, the honour of fighting for his own country is just an excuse. If he had said, I hate war, but I will still go and fight for my country, OK, I might think of him a little differently. And as for using "real" strategies, there are places where yo can use "real" military strategies without killing ppl, so that's no justification.

No Phoenix_CRX, you are the sort of person who shouldn't be there, so maybe there is some sense to the military selection process after all! :D

AK

:smokin:

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Yeah,I would love an WWIII(maybe I´m being a bit...).
I should loved to be as german in WWI or WWII,all that parties,that tanks,that superior space,that wonderful clothes....
But look at how fun should be be shooted at,have to remove the bullet on the battlefield,see just A BIT of gore,people screaming,civilians involved where they wasn´t to be there....
If your army loose,you´ll be arrested,live in a stinking labor camp...
The new weapons,oh yes!Mustard gas at your eyes must be a great feeling,burn with a napalm,that "gay bomb" that someone posted in a thread surely will make you all run to enlist at the army,and the best of all.The atom bomb. I think war awesome,maybe only going to war I should prove I´m not useless or retarded,but...Ah,I don´t know.... What was more dangerous the old wars or the new ones?The old wars like the American Civil war had angry musketons with several bullets and the medicine was sooooo advanced...Althought,the new weapons are very lethal....
Well,at least war breakes the ordinary routine.And don´t need to get so pissed with the boy.take it easy.I know how should be a battlezone.
And last thing,war should be frustating when you see how many widows you made,how many fatherless kids,how many lives was gone....
But at least,its a awesome(a bit) experience to know that you own many people.That till your enemies that are doing nothing when you´re fighting with the death should be gratefull for you saving their asses.That you could be with the other civilians,confortable on your sofa watching your country be conquered,but no!You´re fightning not only to save your life,but also the useless lives of other people that don´t care if you´re dying or is alive.
War is... is.... I can´t describe war.... I´m just an human,I´m not Ares...

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Where exactly does he say that? He wants to shoot guns, which I'll agree is fun. He didn't specifically say he wants to shoot them at people.

I do agree that it would NOT be fun to be in a battle, as he says, but I don't see anything about going on a killing spree.

And he also makes a good point, that if we didn't have people who were interested in this stuff we wouldn't have much of a military. Soldiers in America are soldiers by CHOICE. Tell me what motivates them if it's not defending the country in battle? Yeah, it's a morbid profession, but without them what would we do? Face it, we need people like that.

"You NEED me on that wall!"

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No we don't need people like him who think it is fun .... People who are in the military have fun when they aren't bunkered down getting shot at and shooting at others.

Hmm sounds like he wants to be in a battle and fire real weapons at people. :D
And you saw what happened to that character when he admitted he would commit that same atrocious order of murder again.... He got charged with a dhdc.

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true, true... but that movie was good for hitting on the same topic we are debating here. It's a fine line between soldier and murderer, isn't it. We'd all like to think of the world as civilized and pretend we have progressed beyond the need for violence, yet we maintain a powerful army trained to kill people in several different ways in the name of national security.

But, like I said, I think "fun" was just a poor choice of words on his part.

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That video is nothing like what daily life in a war zone is like. That is just a couple frames of a sanitized war being fought.

It's all good to say you fight for freedom, but know what freedom really is. Iraq posed no threat to our freedom, I highly doubt they had the capability to send hundreds of thounsands of conscripts across the Atlantic supported by tanks and aircraft without our knowing.

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u r a terrorist. :cry:


the link didnt work for me.

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Oh boy, now there's a can of worms..... but here goes:

Let me ask you this.. how many thousand conscripts did it take to bring down the Trade Center? That is what this war is SUPPOSED to be about. In hindsight now, we can argue we may have been wrong or misled going in there, but I for one am still behind it, generally speaking. Tough one, though.

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Right wrong or indifferent. we are there. But that is not the topic.

** phoenix :
i will grant you perhaps it was his choice of words, that created the issue. Had he said something along the lines that he supports his country and would like to fight but is unable, and not mentioned it being FUN, it would have been handled a little differently.
And on this note it brings this topic to a close. :D :deal: