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THE RANKING SYSTEM DRAMATECLY CHANGING BY THIS

Privatehttp://bf2tracker.com/Images/bfrankimages/rank_0.gif
Required Score: 0In the U.S. Army, private refers to the two lowest enlisted ranks, just below Private First Class. The lowest rank (officially known as Private E-1 and sometimes referred to as recruit) wears no uniform insignia, while the second (Private E-2) wears the insignia shown here. Advancement to the higher version of private (with insignia) is currently automatic after six months time in service, but may get shortened to four months if given a waiver (but an automatic pay raise takes effect after four months of service, even absent advancement to Private E-2, meaning that the rank of Private E-1 has two separate pay grades).
In the U.S. Marine Corps, private refers to the lowest Marine Corps enlisted rank, just below Private First Class. A Marine Corps private wears no uniform insignia.
Private First Classhttp://bf2tracker.com/Images/bfrankimages/rank_1.gif
Required Score: 100In the U.S. Army, Private First Class is the third lowest enlisted rank, just above Private and below Corporal or Specialist. It is equivalent to NATO Rank Grade OR-3. Originally no insignia identified holders of this rank, but in 1920 one chevron was established for it; then an arc was placed below the chevron in 1968 at the same time one chevron was authorized for the lower rank of private, in order to distinguish the latter from the still lower rank of recruit.

In the U.S. Marine Corps, Private First Class is the second lowest enlisted rank, just above Private and below Lance Corporal, equivalent to NATO Rank Grade OR-2.
Lance Corporalhttp://bf2tracker.com/Images/bfrankimages/rank_2.gif
Required Score: 250Lance Corporal (LCpl or L/Cpl) is a military rank used by some elements of the British, Commonwealth, and U.S. armed forces. It ranks above privates and below corporal, although its specific status beyond that differs between the forces that use it. It is equivalent to the NATO Rank Grade OR-3. The origin of the rank of Lance Corporal derives from an amalgamation of corporal with the now-archaic lancepesade, formerly an NCO of the lowest rank. This in turn derives from the Italian lanzia spezzata, which literally means "broken lance" or "broken spear", but which was used to denote a seasoned soldier (the broken spear being a metaphor for combat experience, where such an occurrence was likely).
In the U.S. Marine Corps, Lance Corporal is the third lowest enlisted rank, just above Private First Class and below Corporal. It is not a non-commissioned officer military rank
Corporalhttp://bf2tracker.com/Images/bfrankimages/rank_3.gif
Required Score: 500In the U.S. Army a Corporal is the fourth enlisted rank, the first three being forms of Private. A Corporal ranks above a Private First Class and below a Sergeant, and has the same pay grade as a Specialist.
Unlike a Specialist, a Corporal is a non-commissioned officer and may direct the activities of other soldiers, including Specialists. Corporal is the most junior non-commissioned officer rank. A promotion from Specialist to Corporal is a lateral promotion; an increase in rank but not in pay grade.
It is common for a Corporal to lead a fireteam; however, if a soldier is promoted to Corporal and there are too many soldiers of that rank, the new Corporal will stay in his current position.
Sergeanthttp://bf2tracker.com/Images/bfrankimages/rank_4.gif
Required Score: 3,500In the United States Army, although there are several ranks of sergeant, the lowest carries the title of Sergeant, referred to as buck sergeant when needed to distinguish it from the higher ranks. Sergeant is the fifth enlisted rank in the U.S. Army, just above Corporal and below Staff Sergeant, and is the second-lowest grade of non-commissioned officer.
Similarly, the United States Marine Corps has several ranks which carry the title of sergeant, the lowest of which is Sergeant. U.S.M.C. Sergeants are the fifth enlisted rank in the U.S. Marine Corps, just above Corporal and below Staff Sergeant.
Staff Sergeanthttp://bf2tracker.com/Images/bfrankimages/rank_5.gif
Required Score: 10,000Staff Sergeant (SSG) is the sixth enlisted rank in the U.S. Army, just above Sergeant and below Sergeant First Class, and is a non-commissioned officer. They are generally placed in charge of squads, but can also act as platoon sergeants in the absence of a Sergeant First Class.
Staff Sergeant is also the sixth enlisted rank in the U.S. Marine Corps, just above Sergeant and below Gunnery Sergeant, and is a staff non-commissioned officer
Gunnery Sergeanthttp://bf2tracker.com/Images/bfrankimages/rank_6.gif
Required Score: 15,000Gunnery Sergeant is the seventh enlisted rank in the U.S. Marine Corps, just above Staff Sergeant and below Master Sergeant and First Sergeant, and is a staff non-commissioned officer. They are assigned a pay grade of E-7 and the title may be abbreviated as GySgt.

Gunnery Sergeants are commonly referred to by the nickname "Gunny". This nickname is usually regarded as a title of esteem, and is generally acceptable for use in all situations except formal and ceremonial ones. Use of the term by lower-ranking personnel, however, remains at the Gunnery Sergeant's discretion.
Master Sergeanthttp://bf2tracker.com/Images/bfrankimages/rank_7.gif
Required Score: 25,000A Master Sergeant is the eighth enlisted rank in the United States Marine Corps, just above Gunnery Sergeant, below Master Gunnery Sergeant, Sergeant Major, and Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps.

It is equal in grade to First Sergeant. It is abbreviated as "MSgt." Master Sergeants in the U.S. Marine Corps provide technical leadership as occupational specialists at the E-8 level. General command leadership at this paygrade is provided by the separate rank of First Sergeant.
First Sergeanthttp://bf2tracker.com/Images/bfrankimages/rank_8.gif
Required Score: 25,000In the United States Marine Corps, First Sergeant is one level below Sergeant Major and Master Gunnery Sergeant and is the next rank above Gunnery Sergeant. It is equal in grade to Master Sergeant, although the two ranks have different responsibilities. Unlike the first sergeant and master sergeant programs in the U.S. Army, no lateral movement is possible between the two ranks in the Marine Corps. In their annual performance evaluations, called "proficiency reports," eligible Gunnery Sergeants indicate whether they wish to be considered for promotion to Master Sergeant or First Sergeant, and thus whether they enter the promotional track for Master Gunnery Sergeant or Sergeant Major.
Master Gunnery Sergeanthttp://bf2tracker.com/Images/bfrankimages/rank_9.gif
Required Score: 25,000Master Gunnery Sergeant is the ninth and highest enlisted rank (along with the grade-equivalent ranks of Sergeant Major and Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps) in the U.S. Marine Corps. Master Gunnery Sergeants are staff non-commissioned officers (SNCOs), and are assigned a pay grade of E-9. The title may be abbreviated as MGySgt.
Master Gunnery Sergeants are sometimes referred to by the nickname "Master Guns" or "Master Gunny." These nicknames are unacceptable in formal or ceremonial situations, and, at the rank holder's discretion, may also be unacceptable for use by lower-ranking Marines.
Sergeant Majorhttp://bf2tracker.com/Images/bfrankimages/rank_10.gif
Required Score: 50,000In the U.S. Army, Sergeant Major refers to both a military rank and to a specific administrative position. The rank refers to the highest enlisted rank, just above First Sergeant, with a pay grade of E-9.
The administrative position, Command Sergeant Major, is the senior enlisted advisor to the commanding officer and carries with it certain ceremonial functions such as caring for the unit's colors.
Additionally, they serve as monitors for and advocates of the enlisted men in the command. This position exists in units of battalion size or larger.
Sergeant Major of the Corpshttp://bf2tracker.com/Images/bfrankimages/rank_11.gif
Required Score: 75,000

MY OPINION IS THIS SUCKS/ROCKS I almost got my next rang
and yay i rised 3 ranks
REPLY PLEASE:smokin:

EA :0wned: ME AGIAN

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Are you fricking kidding me? How retarded is this? :mad: You did it, you useless whinners, you nerfed the whole freaking thing down! :mad:. I am can't believe Dice gave in to this whinning noobs!!!

I am at 50,000 right now, and the game is over for me?! Great, i will have the last rank in about a month of partime play. And then what? 3 months down the line, the servers will be full of Sergeant Majors?!!! So what's the point of gaining a rank (which should differentiate you from the rest and give you precedence over the lower ranks) if every freaking noob will have that same rank?

Bloody awsome, a system which was realistically disigned for the lifetime of the game, i.e. 2-3 years, has been nerfed down to the level of the noobs for 5 months tops.

Agreed, 3000 hours for a badge may be a bit overboard... but 75,000 points for the top rank (when 50,000 can be achieve in about 3-4 months) is ****** bullshit!

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Hopefully they will add new ranks with every new patch along with bonus unlockable weapons. That will keep the game going for as long as they suport it...

SYN: I don't think people play as much as you do, I have only played about 30 ranked hours and have 1250 points. It makes it funner for us who don't play 100+ hours a month.

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In RL, you don't see everyone as Sergeant Majors. There are very few Sergeant Majors when compared to PFCs, Corporals and the rest.

And those that enlist in the army for the "fun" (server a couple of years) never reach those ranks. The rank was here to distinguish the hardcore players, from the casual players. All the casual players would remain at below the Corporal line, while the hardcord players would battle for the higher ranks.

Now everyone is same, so the whole ranking system is absolutely moot and loses it's point. They might as well remove ranks from the game now.

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Quit your whining. There was never a ranking system in BF1942, but did that mean people didn't enjoy the game? There was never a ranking system of Counter-Strike, but did that keep people from playing for more than a year? Do you honestly think that the game is suddenly going to die because people don't have dedicate themselves to this game to get a high rank?

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Hydraslav play for the fun will ya!? Xenomorph is right. So what if they made it easier we all im sure used to paly BF1942 just for the fun. If you are complaining that you can no longer gain ranks then fine but your practically screaming it ruined the game. Sure I also think its a tad bit to easy but cmon! If youve compelted your ranks just grab some games on non-ranked servers and play for FUN! I can see why people dont even like ranking systems. It just ruins a game with people complaining that the game takes to lo0ng or to short.

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Quote me saying that anywhere :rolleyes:

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actually i was talking to some higher ranked players apparently they have first or second leutenant (spelling?). so it does go higher than what we see on paper here.

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And so that's why we had threads full of ppl here whining complaining cause it was so hard to go up in ranks, they were playing for fun were they and not the ranks?

Well I tend to agree, nerfing the ranks like that destroys the whole point of ranks. Didn't see any of you guys jumping in then and telling them to quit thier whining and play it for fun! (well maybe some of you did, but I can't be bothered to go back and look :) )

Oh and BTW, I only have 6000 points so I'm not one of these play all day guys with 50,000 points, and was looking forward to my next unlock, of course now I'm a seargeant and I consider that I hardly ever play, it does seem a bit pointless. If they were going ot do anything they should have dispensed with ranks altogether

AK

:smokin:

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yeah those ranks aren't right, I only have around 5,000 points but I'm Staff Sargeant.

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Well actaully I'm only at around 3,000. So for all you guys that play it religiously, more power to you. But at least I get Corporal now.

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It is true... just logged in, got all the way to Master Seargent, but it shows "2nd Leutenant Next". My reaction may have been a bit less calm if the original poster mentioned there were more ranks.

However, the fact that you get all your weapons so quick and badges is still bad. I logged in, and got all my guns unlocked... wow, so fun... and there i was 2 days ago breaking my head over which gun to choose next... but thanks to Dice, the excitement is gone.

It's like going for a movie about which you read some great reviews, and then you met some retarded friend on the way that tells you the whole movie in 2 sentences and ruins it all. You just loose all interest.

I've also heard that veteran badges are very easy to get now... A badge should signify a superior skill at something... not something everyone gets...

I worked my ass off for my Gold Knive Badge, getting 18 kills on a regular server before the round ended. I don't even know what this badge is worth now :(

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Well I'm glad they toned it down, but holy crap did they tone it down. I would have been happy if the top rank was still at 125000 or something but the 250000 before was really pushing it. It does kind of suck now, i was 8300 and looking forward to my next unlock but now i have that and more. I mean it'll still take me awhile because I don't play very much but oh well...they can always change it back....

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Wee, got a new unlock :D
Im around 2200 score, but anyway I like the new ranking system.

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I personally don't really give a flying duck about ranks, I play the game for the game play not some rank, while I understand some folks do play for ranks/points and its important to them which is fine, we are all different

What I did not like is the need for or the use of weapon unlocks, for an online games of this type I feel its unfair that you get penalised by having access to inferior tools because you have work and have a life and are not able to play a game 16 hours a day to get a weapon.

IMO everyone should have access to the same weapons, skill does win out, after all this is a combat game not mmorg or life sim game

:gmbeer::drink:

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:ditto:
The only reason I've cared about playing ranked servers, was for getting weapon unlocks. Ranks, Medals and Badges are OK I suppose and a good tool for guaging your performance, but I honestly couldn't care less about them.
The points sytem was way out of reach for the average player, the one who has a life and a family outside of gaming. That said, I do think they might have gone a little overboard on how far they nerfed it. But, given a choice between the two, I'd have go with the current system.

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if you look on this site : http://www.wildcards.org/BF2/BF2RankingSystem.htm
it will show the last rank still going up to 250,000 global pts...

(and yes, for those who dont notice, it are the ranks after the 1.03 patch)

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but its chaos there now
every noob can own now its not about skills now everyone pkm's u now
commanders that trow art on own bases for tk fun
and a noob is a staff seargeant now i dont understand the men from the boys
if u undestand me

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Its not good that the ranking system has been dumbed down. The ranks were there for people who need their ego's boosted to see just how awesome they are. The ranks were almost pointless because I saw way too many groups of friends just hiding out in a corner of the map killing/reviving eachother to up their rank. Its just ridiculous that that happens and for me I dont give a shit what rank you are because you could be like all these dicks and gotten your points unfairly. Whenever I am commander and I see a group of dicks like this I just constantly throw some arty down ontop of them (I could care less about tking the guys on my team) and eventually they will leave the server.
Unfortunatly this is a smart move by EA because it will allow people who dont play the game that much to boost their ego even if they are shitty players. The smart head office at EA did this just for that reason because the majority of people that play BF2 are not going to play it enough to get a whole shitload of points. Its just too bad for the players who play a whole crapload and want recognition for it (unfortunatly these people are not the important ones in EA's eyes).
They should have made the the ribbons and medals much harder to get. Pretty soon everone is going to have every single ribbon and medal in the game and they are going to become insignificant. It was always awesome to get one of these awards and now it is going to suck to get one every time that I play.
For the majority of people who play BF2 this move will make their experience more enjoyable but it sucks for the people who want to be in a elite group of high ranked players that they can compete and compare with.

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I cant belive they nerfed it so badly, and yes i said nerf. I went from corpral to gunney with 3 kills i honestly though it was a bug before i came here and read about it. If they did this just becuase people were wanting all the unlocks faster, in my opinion unlocks shouldnt have been tied to ranks, could have been so nice.

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:ditto::ditto:

What good are ranks anyway? Seriously, other than getting picked for commander, who cares about them? I think it's a trick to get you to play more for a "reward" which really isn't anything. Unlocks are one thing, but what good is a patch or medal to the gameplay?

The game's great but it's not like I'm going to take orders from somebody just cause he outranks me.

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Double ditto

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With school, work, and personal responsibilities I can afford play 2 hours a week, max. However, I payed the same amount of money for the game that you did. I couldnt care less about badges / medals / rank or whatever, but I would like to be able to use the same guns online that other people use without having to devote my life to a silly game. As I remember you saying elsewhere, this isnt a MMORPG or role playing game, its an FPS.

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See, that the funny bit, since the non-gamers (yes, if you can't afford 3 hours a day [come from work at 6, dinner at 7, family from 8-10, 3 hours of BF2 from 10 till 1am], you are not a gamer) don't care about the ranks, then why were they nerfed to please these non-gamers?

I agree with the weapons being tied to rank (i.e. points) being stupid. I'd rather see people get a spec op unlock if they get the specop badge, and so on

But in whatever way you get the unlock, why should i not be rewarded for the dedication i put in?

After all, employees that worked longer at a company get bigger pay and more vacations dates (yet they are not necesseraly better then the new comers).

Customers that have been longer with a bank get a better credit limit

People that spend more time a week at a fast-food chain get better deal with those buy 10 get 1 free sub promotions

And the list goes on... so why should i not get a better gun (which is not really "better", but it's "different") if i spent more time playing?

:fistpunch: ... we will meet again :D

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Like I said above , they can do what ever they want with the rank system for me, I don't play the game to get points as in many cases it turns into a point farming farce, but for some they are important and for them the change sees harsh, but there's still ranks that need very long hours, skills and actions to get

All weapons should be unlocked for every player as they are in nearly every other FPS online game. This makes it an even playing field and allows skill to win out rather than having a more powerful weapon.

I jumped 3 ranks, don't give a flying duck about that, but what I did care about is that is gave me 3 more unlocks so I now have 4 and they cover the classes I play,
which allows me to play on a more even playing field


for the average player who can only play a few hours a week because they have job, family and life this change is good for most and IMO was a good descision by EA/Dice

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I don't disagree that for you and some others are looking for rewards and thats what the ribbons and ranks should give you and thats fine and the changes have diminished that for you,

Personally the only stuff I look at with stats are things like kills/ deaths, I would love to have more kills than deaths :) :smokin:

But every one should have the same weapons full stop. I think they should have unlocked all the weapons and kept the rankings more or less as they are

And some of the medals and ribbons are stupid anyway, like who's going to spend 500 hours stitting in a stinger to get that medal, but I'm sure some fool will

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What they should have done is had other incentives for unlocking ranks higher than those that give you more guns. I totally agree that those who wish to play for rank/unlocks/ribbons should be rewarded for it if they choose to do so. I personally dont play for them, but if you dont have a system of benefits, whats the point?

For instance, different uniforms, player models, etc. Something tangible that rewards players for their dedication, but doesnt put them at too great an advantage over the average player.

I have found the G3 and the PKM to be much more effective than their standard counterparts. The G36C used to be very good as well, but I fear they may have reduced its power.

EDIT:


Thats a really good idea.

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It is chaos in there all it is is getting killed by unlocked guns nobody uses the other guns. I loved that the different guns for each side but now everyone uses their unlocks so its all stupid! Only unlock I would want them to keep is the m95 because it is unique and doesn't really upgrade until you find skill with it. Just get rid of ranking and unlocks or keep it from becoming insane.

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I was oine of the ones who though the ranking system was a bit much... but holy shit... i didnt want it to come down this far. It feels like all the work i did to get the unlocks i did get went down the tubes. My biggest complaint was with all those special medals that NOBODY has. THe ones that need 3,000 hours to get... they didnt change those at all. Now that is a crock of bullshit.

Also... EA sed tehy would fix tank physics so you wouldnt die after being bumped by a tank you were trying ot c4... they certainly DIDNT change that. The server browser is still wonderfully slugish. The favorites and history is nice but LONG overdue. The best part of the new patch is the new map and the new turret sounds. Yes I said sounds. Other than those and the retarded ranking system not much feels different.

The thing where only one dude in a vehicle takes a flag is also very nice... almost forgot about that since you dont see BH whores anymore! =D

Good thing F.E.A.R. is out in 4 days. =D

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You know... why cant a game company just put a poll on their website about some of the changes they wana make in the patch? How frigging hard is it to run ideas by the gamers everynow and then?

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I like the new ranking system. I dont get the time to play as much as some others (having to work, etc), and I have put in lots of hours of my FREE time playing it. On the old system there was very little chance I would progress through the ranks - it would have taken me months to get to Corporal. The new way means I get rewarded for the points I earn - a good player can earn more points in half an hour than a bad players, so there is some degree of skill involved. And EA seem to have added a couple of extra ranks (2nd Lt and Sgt Major of the Corps) for the so called 'elite' players - maybe they can, or will, add some more ranks in time. The new way gives the guy on the street the chance to progress, obtain different weapons and feel like he is progressing in the game.

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I have to agree with hydra.
This ranking system is only good for the 12 year old noobs who dont stick with the same game. I mean how will it be in a year from now, half the players will likely have the rank of general or some sh*t.
The ranking system should be less noobish and should reward gamers who play for hours every day it would be better in the long run for all the loyal bf2 gamers.

Ea and dice really sold out on this one :(

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Where do you thing they got the idea to change the ranks? They didn't pull it out of the air, they listened to all the ppl complaining about how hard it was to get ranks and unlocks and dumbed it down. To me it's the epitomy of creating a game for the poorest players, it then becomes no challenge at all for the skilled players.

They may as well have not bothered with multiple weapons and just had one per class, everybody is just going to use one anyway now that they can all be unlocked with a weeks worth of playing, just ditch the old weapons in the next patch and leave just the unlocks as the standard weapon because the unlock system is now completely pointless. And why bother with ranks at all, the only reason for ranks now is that the higher rank gets to be commander of there are two ppl going for it at the same time, but you don't need the ranks, they were just an attractive way of showing who had more points, so just ditch the ranks and base it on points, the player with more points gets to be commander.

Oh and for those who don't get my above paragraph, that was mostly sarcastic, because by doing that we would have ditched most of the differences between DC and BF2, all thats left is squads, commanders and graphics :rolleyes:

Somebody said that BF2 was just a FPS, but it's not, the moment they introduced persistant stats it became more than a FPS, it started taking on the basic features of a MMORPG, where earning points gave you more power. I would have liked to have seen it extend further, with higher ranks getting different uniforms as well as weapons, choices of body armour, the ability to take command of a squad being reserved to the higher ranks on the server and etc.

I mean imagine how the WoW community would have reacted if Blizzard had turned around and said " due to complaints from new players every new player will spawn with +10 sword of grisly death, full plate armour and 10,000,000 gold pieces" :D

The new players would be happy, they don't have to do anything to achieve their goals, but the exisitng players?

Now of course you won't all agree with what I have said but I think they could have, and were intending to actually make BF2 something more than just another FPS, but now they have nerfed it that's all it is and all it will ever be, and I bet it was EA's doing, not DICE's.

AK

:smokin:

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I can see both sides of this.On the one hand ,Hydra's right.The rank system should be more of a reward for outstanding gameplay.But the way it was before the patch was way too steep.Most of us don't have 3 hours a day to play this or any other game.Especially the more,ahem,mature players.We have wives/girlfriends,kids,jobs,houses to take care of and a zillion other commitments.Why should we be ignored? Personally,I don't care about how many bars or stripes or ribbons I have,I just want to have access to the same weapons so I have an even chance of winning.Now it was probably dumbed down a bit too much,but it did need to be changed.And from what I understand,there are some higher ranks that can be attained by the players that do have a lot of time to play.

BTW,what's wrong with EA listening to the people who play the game? If there hadn't been a lot of people complaining,they wouldn't have changed it.Sounds like a majority rules kind of situation to me.

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I think its a good idea as long as they still have a lot more higher ranks.

The system needs to work towards the needs of EVERY type of gamer. The first 6 ranks or so shouldbe pretty damn easy to make.... you get unlocks based on ranks so it only makes sense to make those ranks a little easier to attain. But then there should also be a drop off point for the badass players who play the game all the time. Right now I thinkt he system is in a good position to show this. After the 25,000 point mark, ranks go back to being very hard to get. There is no longer any reasont o get them since you have all the unlocks... but ranks are hard to get. There should be some other kind of reward gained other than an unlock for these types of players.

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Well it would be nice if we could get a accurate ranking system up because i still don't know what's going on. I have 8900 points and it says i'm a gunnery sergeant in the game but by that system i should only be a sergeant. I think something is glitched with the servers. I have mixed feelings about it. I think it's good they made it easier for people who don't play as much (which apparently are only 12 yr noobs) and still has higher ranks for the more dedicated players. I think it's a step in the right direction for making it a little more of a rounded game for everyone but i still believe there is still a little more work ahead. I mean if they changed it once they can still change it back. At least they're trying to listen to us and make an effort to make a game enjoyable for everyone. Give it time and i think it'll work out.

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In all honestly ... My clan's server isn't a ranked server. I don't have any points ranks or otherwise.
so this is going to throw you through a loop ... Hydraslav is right.
The system was built to reward those players who play. If you want to play for fun you aren't worrying about weapons and stats, cause that isn't how the game was designed in the first place.
The weapons are/were a reward for those people who dedicated the time to playing. Rank was a bonus. :D
Now that all those " children " who complained the game was too hard, got it nerfed to what it is now. I guess there is no reason for my clan to have even an unranked server? bahhh .. who knows. The kids these days wouldn't know a balanced fps if it fell on them by the thousands. if it is too hard for them then it must be too hard for the rest of the world. tsk tsk tsk ....
soon they will petition god to make life easier cause their newest " patch for life" doesn't get them the car they want...LOL
Sign here kids :deal: i mean I will make everything ok .... i will make your game perfect ... You will hit your target everytime, you will take no damage from a vehicle that runs over you at Bump speed, you will not take any damage from falling off a roof that is two stories, especially if you fall on someone else. and you will know when the enemy is coming before they get there.
Hmmmm .... That sounds like a non pb server to me. All you folks that complained about the game should go get your special files and hit the non pb servers and play for the " fun of it " then you can all get your ranks as high as you like .....
ROTFLMAO

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I wonder what the devs feel like eh? First we complain to steep then to shallow yea they are probably more perterbed then us becasue they are the ones that must code it. But It is nice to see the ranks reduced somewhat. Although to this level im iffy about. But im one of those people who does not get to play daily i get mabey 1-2 times a week to play. And im just in high school. Becasue I put education before all else but I still do want to see myself gain some ranks somewhere. An even medium between this would be good though.

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I think what they should have done was some real research into FPS games. what they should have done was not allowed GAMESPY to get involved with all this. lol

That would cut down on half the issue with user id and all the time it takes to access servers. The inability to change your name and so on.

The rank system was fubarred from the start and now they are trying to make up for it for all the people that complained.

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Funny how the opinions here seem to run through the entire spectrum. It just proves the old saying, "If you try to please everyone, you will end up pleasing no one." There's really no decision the devs could've made that wouldn't have pissed someone off. The only thing to do is either keep playing or stop playing. My 2 cents.

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so has anyone determined that this is even a the real ranking system? Like I said in my last posts, it can't be right. I'm a gunnery sergeant when i should only be a sergeant. Obviously something is off...can someone confirm or deny that this is the correct ranking system because if it is then something is glitched.

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Its correct. I'm at 20,300 and im a First Sergeant.

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thats awsome... [sarcasm]I haven't played on a ranked server ... EVER.... and now i can spend some time and bash in the ranks that people have recieved( who have been playing on ranked servers mind you since the start ) in no time.... Wooo hooo let the agrivated dedicated rank server players begin their hating. I will be sgt in no time flat ...LOL [/sarcasm]
we now return you to your regularly scheduled bf2 forums.

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First Sergeanthttp://bf2tracker.com/Images/bfrankimages/rank_8.gif
Required Score: 25,000

I think you are mistaken....you should have 25,000 points to be a first sergeant. And how do you explain me only have 8900 points and being a gunnery sergeant. I don't get it! If you have 20,300 you should only be a gunnery sergeant :confused:

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OK OK OK now there are alot of good points made here, BUT the bottom line is that when they made the game the criteria for everything was way way way to hard. Yes I know there are some people out there with 150,000 points, but they have no life and probably have themselves locked in there room and believe battlefield 2 is the real world. Now the rest of us normal gamers who have have averge amounts of points deserve to be rewarded as well. I mean its ok to have some things be reallly hard to get, but not most things. I play for about and hour to 3 a day and have a little over 10,000 points and i was ready to quit playin ranked servers because whats the point. You play for hundrads of hours to get one reward or two. I think it has made the game much more fun. Anyone who is in here complaining that it ruined the game are probably one of those people who spend every waking hour playin the game and are now pissed because everyone is getting a boost. Well get over it, its just a game and the few people who made this game there Life need to get out and take a walk. The other 95% of us who have lives are now enjoying it much more. EA changed it for a reason. Thousands of people complain its 2 hard to get ahead and a handful complain about dumbing it down.

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actually i don't agree with the majority but let me clarify. Make the ranks harder to get if they want. But don't dangle special weapons and such in front of people like a carrot infront of a horse and tell them they need to play hundreds of thousands of hours.
The game was built for longevity. And those people who have hundreds of thousands of points do have lives. And play other games. there are many ways to get points. Some faster than others.

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The game has been out for about half a year. The ranking system is (was) designed for the lifetime of the game, i.e. 2-3 years. In those 2-3 years, even the slowest players here would get all their unlocks.

Why do people want to get all their unlocks/badges in the first 3 months?! And stop for a second to think of what's going to happen in 1 year with the current system. Erm... screw waiting 1 year, look at it now: everyone has everything now.

Once again, the ranking system was designed for 2-3 year ahead. You were never meant to have all your badges/ranks in the first 3 months, and you were never meant to have all unlocks unless you spend 1 year playing the game.

I play for 3 hours a day (and it got me 53,000 points so far), and i still have enough time for a familly dinner every night, time to help my younger brother with his homework, time to do some house chores, late evenings are reserved for my GF, and i get time to go out and party on the weekeneds (and normal people that work through the day, have to pay for the house, electricity, food, GF, etc don't have the money to party all week long like some here try to suggest :rolleyes: ). So, with all the above, i still get the social life and get to put 3 hours a day for BF2.

So don't tell me you can't squeeze out 3 hours a day if you got GF, work, etc. True, some people will not play everyday, some people only play on weekends. But it's not because they cannot put 3 hours a day, it's because they don't want to.

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you don't " complete " anything in online multiplayer fps game. Soldier of fortune ? SOF2 ?Bf, BFV, there is nothing to complete. This game was built for you to get your monies worth, by leveling up to get new weapons. It should take a while to do that so you get some self satisfaction out of it.

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Uh,the game's been out for 3.5 months.That's not half a year. :rolleyes: And I will tell you I can't play 3 hours a night,every night because it's true.Without getting into a minute by minute description of my schedule,I simply don't have that kind of time.Unless of course I get a divorce and quit my job.If you can,that's great.But we're not all in the same circumstance as you.