Ranking System Dramatcly Changed Warning Spoilers - Page 6

***Shotglass01*** · October 7th, 2005

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Originally Posted by MerrickDS

you don't " complete " anything in online multiplayer fps game. Soldier of fortune ? SOF2 ?Bf, BFV, there is nothing to complete. This game was built for you to get your monies worth, by leveling up to get new weapons. It should take a while to do that so you get some self satisfaction out of it.

Well, getting higher ranks, unlocks, once those are accomplished it's complete. There's nowhere left to go except get more points or badges. Once you have it all it seems pretty complete to me.

***Dark Saint*** · October 7th, 2005

well then ... you see why they screwed up by "fixing" the system. Now it will be " complete" in your eyes three times faster, and you won't ever play it again cause it won't have any replay value. Thank god for older fps that aren't designed to be anything complete. But to be played.

***[SYN] hydraSlav*** · October 7th, 2005

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Originally Posted by Shotglass01

Well, getting higher ranks, unlocks, once those are accomplished it's complete. There's nowhere left to go except get more points or badges. Once you have it all it seems pretty complete to me.

Taking into account the original requirements, it was virtually impossible to "complete" the game buy getting all medals/badges. You know why? Cause you were never meant to have "everything".

A guy plays defense for 2 years and at the end gets a Ground Defence Expert badge. Another guy flies in a helicopter the whole 2 years, and gets the helicopter Medal. A third guy runs after his squad resupplying them all the time, and at the end is rewarded the Support Medal.

And when they meet, they will all have different awards. This is called distinction. And this distinction is worth playing for. But if everyone gets the same, then who freaking cares what you got.

***Shotglass01*** · October 8th, 2005

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Originally Posted by [SYN] hydraSlav

And when they meet, they will all have different awards. This is called distinction. And this distinction is worth playing for. But if everyone gets the same, then who freaking cares what you got.

Absolutely. Distinction of simulator vs. game.

***deftond*** · October 11th, 2005

Well all I have to say is that if you spend your whole life living to play this game for 6 hours a day then you are rediculous!! No matter what.....rank means almost nothing....the whole point is keeping track of your stats..wouldnt it be cool if you could know your stats from 1942 or vietnam.....Noobs distinguish themselves but you people are way too hard on them.......I am a dedicated bf person but3 hours a day is the most I play ever.....that is still a lot of time and effort involved to play the game....just because you have 50,000 points and have no life dont mean youll own me......ive played all battlefields and I am a really good player...but im not gonna try to play for 6 hours a day to distinguish myself.......wtf? this is for fun too........just cause you have those high ranks dont mean your better...it means you have a lot more time invested and I hope the hell you would have a lot of points for it...who wouldnt....there is a difference between being a player who is always top 5 and a player who is always bottom 5.....every map........you know that the people in the top five are not noobs.....and it will definatly take them a lot less time to gain ranks, medals and points...right now even anyone with around 9,000 or 10,000 points who dont point farm and who dont spawn kill or base rape are good players.......base rape is ******* stupid and I know some people do it for easy points......my points are earned...not given......Im not gonna listen to some dumbass diss all the people that dont play bf2 for 3 hours...eats dinner...playes 3 more hours...every day......how about us that work 5 ten hours shifts a week....you guys can say what you want....but ill still own most of you with high ranks who cheat to get their points....your rank will mean nothing when I kill you....when your on my team I dont care if your a noob....I like people in my squad that work together....no matter how many points they can score...those people still try hard and they are a good asset to the team...they are a good balance!!

***THC_Snake_*** · October 11th, 2005

The funny thing about this whole thread is to see that some people actually had no problem with wasting their life away in front of a computer screen for countless hours to unlocks some ranks and weapons. But the funniest thing is to see the people who were doing it are mad now because they have done what the smart people have avoided doing. Yes, requirements (for the ranks at least) have been drastically reduced. And thats ok. You know why? Because the only significance your rank has in the game is if you like to play commander alot, or if you want to unlock that alternate weapon. You would need a high rank to have a chance of being picked over someone in a game as commander. You need to advance in rank to get alternate weapons. No one wants to spend half of their life simply trying to earn the option of going into battle with a different weapon than they normally do. The real reward (as it is in the real military) is in the medals, badges and ribbons (and yes ranks too...but not for our purposes). The requirements for these have not really changed too much, maybe for the badges more than the medals. You still have to put in quite a few hours in addition to already having met certain badge requirements. So even if there have been a ton of promotions, It hasnt really taken away from the replay value of the game as there are still many things in the game that will take time to accomplish. Besides, after the next few patches are released and we finally get one that actually makes the game more stable than it is now, then people will definitly continue playing just because of that.

***Dark Saint*** · October 11th, 2005

SNAKE: Reupload your avatar please.

***deftond*** · October 11th, 2005

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Originally Posted by THC_Snake_

The funny thing about this whole thread is to see that some people actually had no problem with wasting their life away in front of a computer screen for countless hours to unlocks some ranks and weapons. But the funniest thing is to see the people who were doing it are mad now because they have done what the smart people have avoided doing. Yes, requirements (for the ranks at least) have been drastically reduced. And thats ok. You know why? Because the only significance your rank has in the game is if you like to play commander alot, or if you want to unlock that alternate weapon. You would need a high rank to have a chance of being picked over someone in a game as commander. You need to advance in rank to get alternate weapons. No one wants to spend half of their life simply trying to earn the option of going into battle with a different weapon than they normally do. The real reward (as it is in the real military) is in the medals, badges and ribbons (and yes ranks too...but not for our purposes). The requirements for these have not really changed too much, maybe for the badges more than the medals. You still have to put in quite a few hours in addition to already having met certain badge requirements. So even if there have been a ton of promotions, It hasnt really taken away from the replay value of the game as there are still many things in the game that will take time to accomplish. Besides, after the next few patches are released and we finally get one that actually makes the game more stable than it is now, then people will definitly continue playing just because of that.

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I totally agree with you....this is the way I feel about it. I played countless hours on 1942 and on vietnam playing for the fun of it.....I like the rank system because it offers something different......it keeps track of the way you play......I just dont see why people for all those medals like.....the knife medal...and pistol medal....its funny because they do it just because they know they can.......having the medals for the diffeent weapon groups is good because if your a well rounded soldier you have to change your weapon kit depending on what your squad needs...so it just shows people that they can use those weapons well....then they have advanced medals in the same thing.....if we had ranks would that mean that people would keep playing vietnam?
The biggest thing I find with this is that no bf game besides 1942 offered the Campaign gameplay.....this is what they should do
and the coolest would be to have an online campaign that the server would have...and it keeps track of how many boats you destroy, tanks...apc, so on just like 1942 did at the end of its campaign......even if you dont play the whole campaign obviously...but you also have a longterm goal....not nessesarily how many points YOU have YOURSELF....but that you try to make YOUR TEAM WIN....then at the end of the campaign it would have the top stats for the campaign........shit this is good shit.......im gonna have to start a new thread.

ismethere · October 12th, 2005

Well, you've reached the top of the ranks in BF2? EA/DICE have something special for you....BF2 Special Forces. Coincidence that the BF2 rank climb was expidited with BF2 SF waiting in the wings? You be the judge.

Truly a joke. The first night of the 1.03 patch I jumped 3 ranks. At this point they might as well scrap the ranking system and give us the unlocks. I originally expected the ranking system to coincide with the ability to operate vehicles (Lts and above could pilot aircraft, Sgt/above tanks, etc).

***Dark Saint*** · October 12th, 2005

Now that would just be foolish ...
I ( like everyone else) is not going to pick up a game of this magnitude for the 50 usd it cost, so i can sit there and look at a jet on a runway, and think to myself,
" Someday i will have enough rank to fly that" give me a break ..... [sarcasm]I would rather at that point .. Shoot down my own planes to get my monies worth lol .[/sarcasm]