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I like the new ranking system. I dont get the time to play as much as some others (having to work, etc), and I have put in lots of hours of my FREE time playing it. On the old system there was very little chance I would progress through the ranks - it would have taken me months to get to Corporal. The new way means I get rewarded for the points I earn - a good player can earn more points in half an hour than a bad players, so there is some degree of skill involved. And EA seem to have added a couple of extra ranks (2nd Lt and Sgt Major of the Corps) for the so called 'elite' players - maybe they can, or will, add some more ranks in time. The new way gives the guy on the street the chance to progress, obtain different weapons and feel like he is progressing in the game.

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I have to agree with hydra.
This ranking system is only good for the 12 year old noobs who dont stick with the same game. I mean how will it be in a year from now, half the players will likely have the rank of general or some sh*t.
The ranking system should be less noobish and should reward gamers who play for hours every day it would be better in the long run for all the loyal bf2 gamers.

Ea and dice really sold out on this one :(

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Where do you thing they got the idea to change the ranks? They didn't pull it out of the air, they listened to all the ppl complaining about how hard it was to get ranks and unlocks and dumbed it down. To me it's the epitomy of creating a game for the poorest players, it then becomes no challenge at all for the skilled players.

They may as well have not bothered with multiple weapons and just had one per class, everybody is just going to use one anyway now that they can all be unlocked with a weeks worth of playing, just ditch the old weapons in the next patch and leave just the unlocks as the standard weapon because the unlock system is now completely pointless. And why bother with ranks at all, the only reason for ranks now is that the higher rank gets to be commander of there are two ppl going for it at the same time, but you don't need the ranks, they were just an attractive way of showing who had more points, so just ditch the ranks and base it on points, the player with more points gets to be commander.

Oh and for those who don't get my above paragraph, that was mostly sarcastic, because by doing that we would have ditched most of the differences between DC and BF2, all thats left is squads, commanders and graphics :rolleyes:

Somebody said that BF2 was just a FPS, but it's not, the moment they introduced persistant stats it became more than a FPS, it started taking on the basic features of a MMORPG, where earning points gave you more power. I would have liked to have seen it extend further, with higher ranks getting different uniforms as well as weapons, choices of body armour, the ability to take command of a squad being reserved to the higher ranks on the server and etc.

I mean imagine how the WoW community would have reacted if Blizzard had turned around and said " due to complaints from new players every new player will spawn with +10 sword of grisly death, full plate armour and 10,000,000 gold pieces" :D

The new players would be happy, they don't have to do anything to achieve their goals, but the exisitng players?

Now of course you won't all agree with what I have said but I think they could have, and were intending to actually make BF2 something more than just another FPS, but now they have nerfed it that's all it is and all it will ever be, and I bet it was EA's doing, not DICE's.

AK

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I can see both sides of this.On the one hand ,Hydra's right.The rank system should be more of a reward for outstanding gameplay.But the way it was before the patch was way too steep.Most of us don't have 3 hours a day to play this or any other game.Especially the more,ahem,mature players.We have wives/girlfriends,kids,jobs,houses to take care of and a zillion other commitments.Why should we be ignored? Personally,I don't care about how many bars or stripes or ribbons I have,I just want to have access to the same weapons so I have an even chance of winning.Now it was probably dumbed down a bit too much,but it did need to be changed.And from what I understand,there are some higher ranks that can be attained by the players that do have a lot of time to play.

BTW,what's wrong with EA listening to the people who play the game? If there hadn't been a lot of people complaining,they wouldn't have changed it.Sounds like a majority rules kind of situation to me.

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I think its a good idea as long as they still have a lot more higher ranks.

The system needs to work towards the needs of EVERY type of gamer. The first 6 ranks or so shouldbe pretty damn easy to make.... you get unlocks based on ranks so it only makes sense to make those ranks a little easier to attain. But then there should also be a drop off point for the badass players who play the game all the time. Right now I thinkt he system is in a good position to show this. After the 25,000 point mark, ranks go back to being very hard to get. There is no longer any reasont o get them since you have all the unlocks... but ranks are hard to get. There should be some other kind of reward gained other than an unlock for these types of players.

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Well it would be nice if we could get a accurate ranking system up because i still don't know what's going on. I have 8900 points and it says i'm a gunnery sergeant in the game but by that system i should only be a sergeant. I think something is glitched with the servers. I have mixed feelings about it. I think it's good they made it easier for people who don't play as much (which apparently are only 12 yr noobs) and still has higher ranks for the more dedicated players. I think it's a step in the right direction for making it a little more of a rounded game for everyone but i still believe there is still a little more work ahead. I mean if they changed it once they can still change it back. At least they're trying to listen to us and make an effort to make a game enjoyable for everyone. Give it time and i think it'll work out.

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In all honestly ... My clan's server isn't a ranked server. I don't have any points ranks or otherwise.
so this is going to throw you through a loop ... Hydraslav is right.
The system was built to reward those players who play. If you want to play for fun you aren't worrying about weapons and stats, cause that isn't how the game was designed in the first place.
The weapons are/were a reward for those people who dedicated the time to playing. Rank was a bonus. :D
Now that all those " children " who complained the game was too hard, got it nerfed to what it is now. I guess there is no reason for my clan to have even an unranked server? bahhh .. who knows. The kids these days wouldn't know a balanced fps if it fell on them by the thousands. if it is too hard for them then it must be too hard for the rest of the world. tsk tsk tsk ....
soon they will petition god to make life easier cause their newest " patch for life" doesn't get them the car they want...LOL
Sign here kids :deal: i mean I will make everything ok .... i will make your game perfect ... You will hit your target everytime, you will take no damage from a vehicle that runs over you at Bump speed, you will not take any damage from falling off a roof that is two stories, especially if you fall on someone else. and you will know when the enemy is coming before they get there.
Hmmmm .... That sounds like a non pb server to me. All you folks that complained about the game should go get your special files and hit the non pb servers and play for the " fun of it " then you can all get your ranks as high as you like .....
ROTFLMAO

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I wonder what the devs feel like eh? First we complain to steep then to shallow yea they are probably more perterbed then us becasue they are the ones that must code it. But It is nice to see the ranks reduced somewhat. Although to this level im iffy about. But im one of those people who does not get to play daily i get mabey 1-2 times a week to play. And im just in high school. Becasue I put education before all else but I still do want to see myself gain some ranks somewhere. An even medium between this would be good though.

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I think what they should have done was some real research into FPS games. what they should have done was not allowed GAMESPY to get involved with all this. lol

That would cut down on half the issue with user id and all the time it takes to access servers. The inability to change your name and so on.

The rank system was fubarred from the start and now they are trying to make up for it for all the people that complained.

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Funny how the opinions here seem to run through the entire spectrum. It just proves the old saying, "If you try to please everyone, you will end up pleasing no one." There's really no decision the devs could've made that wouldn't have pissed someone off. The only thing to do is either keep playing or stop playing. My 2 cents.