Ranking System Dramatcly Changed Warning Spoilers

[phoenix12]

Originally Posted by TheSmeghead

I personally don't really give a flying duck about ranks

What good are ranks anyway? Seriously, other than getting picked for commander, who cares about them? I think it's a trick to get you to play more for a "reward" which really isn't anything. Unlocks are one thing, but what good is a patch or medal to the gameplay?

The game's great but it's not like I'm going to take orders from somebody just cause he outranks me.

[phoenix12]

Originally Posted by TheSmeghead

its unfair that you get penalised by having access to inferior tools because you have work and have a life

Double ditto

[[tR]Mad Mac]

Originally Posted by [SYN] hydraSlav

Are you fricking kidding me? How retarded is this? You did it, you useless whinners, you nerfed the whole freaking thing down! . I am can't believe Dice gave in to this whinning noobs!!!

I am at 50,000 right now, and the game is over for me?! Great, i will have the last rank in about a month of partime play. And then what? 3 months down the line, the servers will be full of Sergeant Majors?!!! So what's the point of gaining a rank (which should differentiate you from the rest and give you precedence over the lower ranks) if every freaking noob will have that same rank?

Bloody awsome, a system which was realistically disigned for the lifetime of the game, i.e. 2-3 years, has been nerfed down to the level of the noobs for 5 months tops.

Agreed, 3000 hours for a badge may be a bit overboard... but 75,000 points for the top rank (when 50,000 can be achieve in about 3-4 months) is fucking bullshit!

With school, work, and personal responsibilities I can afford play 2 hours a week, max. However, I payed the same amount of money for the game that you did. I couldnt care less about badges / medals / rank or whatever, but I would like to be able to use the same guns online that other people use without having to devote my life to a silly game. As I remember you saying elsewhere, this isnt a MMORPG or role playing game, its an FPS.

[[SYN] hydraSlav]

Originally Posted by TheSmeghead

I personally don't really give a flying duck about ranks, I play the game for the game play not some rank,

See, that the funny bit, since the non-gamers (yes, if you can't afford 3 hours a day [come from work at 6, dinner at 7, family from 8-10, 3 hours of BF2 from 10 till 1am], you are not a gamer) don't care about the ranks, then why were they nerfed to please these non-gamers?

I agree with the weapons being tied to rank (i.e. points) being stupid. I'd rather see people get a spec op unlock if they get the specop badge, and so on

But in whatever way you get the unlock, why should i not be rewarded for the dedication i put in?

After all, employees that worked longer at a company get bigger pay and more vacations dates (yet they are not necesseraly better then the new comers).

Customers that have been longer with a bank get a better credit limit

People that spend more time a week at a fast-food chain get better deal with those buy 10 get 1 free sub promotions

And the list goes on... so why should i not get a better gun (which is not really "better", but it's "different") if i spent more time playing?

Originally Posted by [tR

Mad Mac]As I remember you saying elsewhere, this isnt a MMORPG or role playing game, its an FPS

... we will meet again

[TheSmeghead]

Like I said above , they can do what ever they want with the rank system for me, I don't play the game to get points as in many cases it turns into a point farming farce, but for some they are important and for them the change sees harsh, but there's still ranks that need very long hours, skills and actions to get

All weapons should be unlocked for every player as they are in nearly every other FPS online game. This makes it an even playing field and allows skill to win out rather than having a more powerful weapon.

I jumped 3 ranks, don't give a flying duck about that, but what I did care about is that is gave me 3 more unlocks so I now have 4 and they cover the classes I play,
which allows me to play on a more even playing field


for the average player who can only play a few hours a week because they have job, family and life this change is good for most and IMO was a good descision by EA/Dice

[TheSmeghead]

Originally Posted by [SYN] hydraSlav

why should i not be rewarded for the dedication i put in

I don't disagree that for you and some others are looking for rewards and thats what the ribbons and ranks should give you and thats fine and the changes have diminished that for you,

Personally the only stuff I look at with stats are things like kills/ deaths, I would love to have more kills than deaths

But every one should have the same weapons full stop. I think they should have unlocked all the weapons and kept the rankings more or less as they are

And some of the medals and ribbons are stupid anyway, like who's going to spend 500 hours stitting in a stinger to get that medal, but I'm sure some fool will

[[tR]Mad Mac]

What they should have done is had other incentives for unlocking ranks higher than those that give you more guns. I totally agree that those who wish to play for rank/unlocks/ribbons should be rewarded for it if they choose to do so. I personally dont play for them, but if you dont have a system of benefits, whats the point?

For instance, different uniforms, player models, etc. Something tangible that rewards players for their dedication, but doesnt put them at too great an advantage over the average player.

I have found the G3 and the PKM to be much more effective than their standard counterparts. The G36C used to be very good as well, but I fear they may have reduced its power.

EDIT:

Originally Posted by [SYN] hydraSlav

I agree with the weapons being tied to rank (i.e. points) being stupid. I'd rather see people get a spec op unlock if they get the specop badge, and so on

Thats a really good idea.

[kosmonaught]

It is chaos in there all it is is getting killed by unlocked guns nobody uses the other guns. I loved that the different guns for each side but now everyone uses their unlocks so its all stupid! Only unlock I would want them to keep is the m95 because it is unique and doesn't really upgrade until you find skill with it. Just get rid of ranking and unlocks or keep it from becoming insane.

[Trojanman190]

I was oine of the ones who though the ranking system was a bit much... but holy shit... i didnt want it to come down this far. It feels like all the work i did to get the unlocks i did get went down the tubes. My biggest complaint was with all those special medals that NOBODY has. THe ones that need 3,000 hours to get... they didnt change those at all. Now that is a crock of bullshit.

Also... EA sed tehy would fix tank physics so you wouldnt die after being bumped by a tank you were trying ot c4... they certainly DIDNT change that. The server browser is still wonderfully slugish. The favorites and history is nice but LONG overdue. The best part of the new patch is the new map and the new turret sounds. Yes I said sounds. Other than those and the retarded ranking system not much feels different.

The thing where only one dude in a vehicle takes a flag is also very nice... almost forgot about that since you dont see BH whores anymore! =D

Good thing F.E.A.R. is out in 4 days. =D

[Trojanman190]

You know... why cant a game company just put a poll on their website about some of the changes they wana make in the patch? How frigging hard is it to run ideas by the gamers everynow and then?