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BigWyrrm July 24th, 2005 08:26 AM

No love for PC owners of BF2
 
I have played the multiplayer demo of BF2: Modern Combat for the XBOX and I have to say that it is surprisingly good! In fact, there are several things that are superior to the PC version.
First of all, there are only 6 kits to choose from, and they are more versatile than the PC version. They include: laser designators, scanners to detect close enemies, and more!
Second, there is the normal conquest mode, as well as team death match, capture the flag, and 'other unannounced modes'. Damn! All we have for the PC is conquest, which gets boring pretty quickly.
Instead of getting constantly spammed with artillery from the enemy's commander, there is no commander. Instead, there is one artillery launch area per map and anyone can use it when it is 'charged up'.
An interesting single player campaign is included, not just regular BF2 singleplayer 'practice' mode.
Also, you don't die as quickly in the console version as in the PC version. In addition, hit detection is much more accurate and the sniper rifle has TWO ZOOM distances (doesnt sound like a luxury until you use the PC BF2 sniper rifles, all with one lame ass medium range zoom)!
There are other cool features as well.
http://ps2.gamespy.com/playstation-2.../635909p2.html
Granted, BF2 has a larger scale, larger maps, more players, etc... It also has tons of bugs and unstable netcode.
There is also the awesome mod community, only available on your local PC.
I know that both versions were made by different sections of DICE, but I just want to know why so many compromises were made for the PC version and why some really great ideas are only in the console versions.

OneTinSoldier July 24th, 2005 10:42 AM

Re: No love for PC owners of BF2
 
Unstable netcode?? What is it about the netcode that's unstable on the PC version?

Most everyone I have seen has agreed that the netcode in BF2 is a very nice improvement over the old BF1942 netcode and I haven't seen anyone except you say that the netcode is 'unstable'. Please explain. Does BF2 have some bugs that need fixing? Yeah, sure it does. But I don't think the netcode is one of them.

SwiftGuard July 24th, 2005 11:12 AM

Re: No love for PC owners of BF2
 
Yeah. But I'm definantly getting BF2:MC for *puts on a British accent* me little X-Box... :lol:

Big_Daddy July 24th, 2005 11:59 AM

Re: No love for PC owners of BF2
 
After playing both the console and PC version, I can truthfully say that the PC version is far superior. Although the console version is good.....it's no comparison to the PC one. The features you say are on the console version are just really dumbed down ones. Like the laser designation for one....that would only be true if there were actual controllable aircraft apart from the helos. Having a computer strike a target for you just isn't the same.

shinyrory July 24th, 2005 12:25 PM

Re: No love for PC owners of BF2
 
I think that they have both got there posotive and negative points.

slimshady17 July 24th, 2005 12:50 PM

Re: No love for PC owners of BF2
 
http://forums.filefront.com/images/smilies/cya.gif Hey BigWyrrm.

DrJake July 24th, 2005 02:01 PM

Re: No love for PC owners of BF2
 
Those Features sound cool, just to start off with. I was really looking up to being the spec ops and using a laser designator on a tank at a distance. I have not played the Xbox version so Im not sure how it works. But it would be great on PC, as long as there is a team mate in a f-15,-18-35, ect with his laser bombs on the target.

It would suck if it were computer controled/scripted to hit say after 15 seconds of lasing the target.

Sniper is just fine in bf2 I think. Multiple zoom... mmmmmm. That would be great however. But as for bullet drop and travel I think is fine. With the urban enviroment and better distance for some comps They dont want Sniper to kill people from extream distances.

I have 2 gigs of ram and Duel 6800's so I run on full enviro distance, I see alot of people before they see me and its a problem, for them:nodding:

BigWyrrm July 26th, 2005 09:17 AM

Re: No love for PC owners of BF2
 
So, Tinboy, you don't experience any ingame lag when playing online? No stuttering on ranked servers? Playing BF2 is smooth sailing huh? Liar.

What up shady?http://forums.filefront.com/images/smilies/cya.gif

I forgot to mention that BF2: Modern Combat will come out on the XBOX 360 and the rumor is that it will have support for up to 64 players.



That beehotch is so fat. She must be on that new diet plan...Slim Slow! :lol:

psyichic July 26th, 2005 09:25 AM

Re: No love for PC owners of BF2
 
Actually yes I dont experience any problems. Oh and yes lol your "laser designator" is like a dumbed down version of our artillery in a sense. But Yea its probably more acurate but still lol. And sadly you miss out on commander mode! and all the good VOIP sweetness. Oh and the new upcoming expansion pack (Weve got zip lines!) and dont forget you miss out on mods and maps by the community! And the zoom on the current sniper scopes is fine by me I mean yea having a second level would be nice but the current is fine for me. LOL and you dont have planes? I feel for ya.

Just remember that mods are a games salvation! :bows:

slimshady17 July 26th, 2005 10:47 AM

Re: No love for PC owners of BF2
 
With most of the things I've seen in BF:MC videos it shouldn't be to hard for a mod team to do most of that stuff, most of it would just be changing weapon settings. And if were lucky EA will do something about the lag/slow down most people are seeing.

BigWyrrm July 27th, 2005 08:35 AM

Re: No love for PC owners of BF2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by psyichic
Actually yes I dont experience any problems. Oh and yes lol your "laser designator" is like a dumbed down version of our artillery in a sense. But Yea its probably more acurate but still lol. And sadly you miss out on commander mode! and all the good VOIP sweetness. Oh and the new upcoming expansion pack (Weve got zip lines!) and dont forget you miss out on mods and maps by the community! And the zoom on the current sniper scopes is fine by me I mean yea having a second level would be nice but the current is fine for me. LOL and you dont have planes? I feel for ya.

Just remember that mods are a games salvation! :bows:

First of all, Psyichic, any idiot knows that the PS2, XBOX, and XBOX 360 has voip. The latter two have voip for ALL games.
Commander mode isn't always that great. I am not thrilled at the lack of skill that most commanders have, tking with artillery, not giving orders, etc... When it does work, it takes NO skill whatsoever to launch artillery. I prefer the old BF2 version of artillery. Maybe if the commander had to have someone spot the area first it would be better.
If you had actually read my original post, i mentioned the lack of mods for consoles.
The sniper rifle is a joke. It is a long range weapon that doesn't work at long ranges. It is horribly innacurate at long ranges. With the current scope, spec ops rifles can snipe as well as snipers. The crosshairs are also too thick, at long ranges it covers up the entire body or head of the enemy.
The expansion pack looks as lame as can be. Zip wires to get you 'quickly across the battlefield'? How about a freakin jetpack for added realism?Honestly, they need to fix the broken game before they give us a lame ass expansion pack. Did anyone actually play the two for BF1942 longer than one week?
Funny how you call the laser designater from BF2:MC 'mine' and the artillery from BF2 'yours'.
One thing that I am sure that everyone who plays BF2 would like is more gaming modes. BF2: MC has conquest, ctf, deathmatch, and at least one 'unannounced mode'. BF2 is limited to conquest only. So lame!
I don't prefer one over the other, all my post is about is wishing that some of the features from BF2:MC were in BF2.

Wootbeer July 27th, 2005 10:59 AM

Re: No love for PC owners of BF2
 
BF2 Pros Over BF:MC
Better graphics
Mods, Add-ons
More players

MC over BF2
Some new gadgets (Thermals, laser design etc)
New Gaming modes ( Look at all the people who played other gamemodes in BFV,BF1942!!!)
Single-player
A different nation

Well lets see...new gadgets can be added in by mods....
Single player? With AI as bad as it is, Single player won't be praised for long.
Oooh, a new nation...again...mods.

OneTinSoldier July 27th, 2005 09:01 PM

Re: No love for PC owners of BF2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigWyrrm
So, Tinboy, you don't experience any ingame lag when playing online? No stuttering on ranked servers? Playing BF2 is smooth sailing huh?

That's right, that's exactly right... depending on what server I'm playing on. I like Zboard and GameCenter.com servers.

Lately though it seems that GameCenter.com servers have gone bad, or maybe I've just had bad luck. But the lag is so bad that people move in two second bursts and sometimes I get 'There is a problem with your connection' every five seconds give or take several seconds! When the server exploit was dished out, and then after that being fixed I guess, it seemed this was happening on every server I tried, either Zboard or GameCenter.com's. Right now for some reason it just seems to be with GameCenter.com's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigWyrrm
Liar


plzdie: :moon:


I have stated this already in another thread or two... I play on servers that host 64 people and use 64 player sized maps. I have no lag issues on good servers! Whether you choose to beleive me or not is your perogative, and I understand if you choose not to. I didn't believe the fellow that says his friend runs BF2 on a 700 MHz PIII with 128 MB's of RAM. But the guy stuck to his guns, and perhaps he is not lying. But I find that pretty incredible to believe though and you may feel the same way about my claim. Fine. But see my emoticons above! :lol:


System Specs:

Intel 3.4C(C = Northwood Core) on Asus P4C800-E Deluxe(Intel 875P + ICH5R Chipset), Zalman 7000a-Cu HS/Fan, Enermax RG651P-VE 550W PSU, 1 GB Mushkin High Performance(2-2-2) PC3200 RAM, NEC MultiSync FE2111SB 21" Monitor, Sapphire Radeon X800 XT PE Videocard with v5.6 Catalyst Drivers, DirectX 9.0c, Creative Audigy2 Platinum Soundcard with Creative OpenAL Beta Driver, 250 GB w/8 MB Cache Western Digital HDD, WinXP Pro SP2

Rent_A_Cop July 27th, 2005 09:07 PM

Re: No love for PC owners of BF2
 
Wow, now just wow. That line "a new nation" caught my eye so I decided to check out the info page......wow. Lookie here NATO, please, NATO, youre serious? Theres no nato just the glorious USA again. As for China and US duking it out for oil in Kazakhstan.....well now. Who let them both into Kazakhstan in the first place, and secondly, if China invaded Kazakhstan, wouldnt Russia be in the SOMEWHERE? I mean they share like a 3000 mile border...as for features meh i dont really care i have the PC one and I'm fine, plus I think that the scan thing for commander is BS enough as far as realism goes, so adding soekind of "thermal detection" for individuals, is just way over the top for me.

OneTinSoldier July 27th, 2005 09:12 PM

Re: No love for PC owners of BF2
 
P.S. One thing that is probably helping me out is that my motherboard's onboard Ethernet(NIC) card has it's own dedicated bus. - ICH5R - Therefore it doesn't not take up clock cycles on the PCI bus which cause lag due to high network traffic on the bus. If you use a addon PCI NIC or your motherboard does not have such an implementation of the onboard NIC then that is probably why you expericence lag when playing on the big boy servers. Juz sometin to take in ta conzidration.

Agent_0range July 28th, 2005 02:13 AM

Re: No love for PC owners of BF2
 
Yeah I use onboard Ethernet NIC in my motherboard too and I've never had any problems with lag. No commander is fairly shit too. Neither will you get FH2 therefore I win.


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