The guns..is it a bug or...something.....
 

Hey everyone!
Well I just got the game today, and I played all the way past stalingrad and umm.. I don't know if this belongs on the trouble shooting forum or here.. but why is there russians running around with american weapons? and why are americans using British wepons? I mean I KNOW under lend-lease they must have shared weapons but I didn't see many russian smallarms... no brit tanks...and why does the medic have the ASSAULT weapons...the smg? Is that a bug.. or some installation issue? I don't think its a game problem cuz they said in the ads that the game uses accurate historic weapons...
HELP, thanks
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I think the "Historically accurate weapons" thing was aimed towards "Content is historically accurate". The guns and all that existed and all. The arrangements exist as they do for balancing issues. As far as the tanks, I can't think of anything right now o.o

Do your homework and you will understand these continuities.
If you don't research, you remain ignorant.
Frag ya laterz.

Moody players
 

Jesus u guys..... You guys make CS players look mature!!!

Noobs? So, who cares? You where all noobs too once! So don't forget it.

All I need is an answer! It ain't my fault the game greaters scrwed up! Balance seems to me a lame excuse for missing out on really cool weapons!

And Iniog, the russian PPSh.... kicked ass! One of the best SMG's of the war, thats why it was popular with the GERMAN ARMY. THe Maxim was old, but worked and the russian 50cal...well its a 50cal, and any 50cal is scary.:rock:

So on the final note... the DICE messed up and..well...does anyone know if they will change this in a patch or something??:confused:

I'm not sure this is true.

I suspect it was done for playability issues. Every extra gun and vehicle in the game will use more memory, and as it is this game requires heaps of memory so if every weapon that was used was made and put in the game we would all need 1Gb of ram to play the game. Perhaps when the next version comes out, and we all have 5Ghz CPU's and Nvidia FX 2's and 2 Gb of memory they'll put more in.

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Russianbeer don't listen to Iniog he a small kid with a bad attitude who likes to think he is l337, he calls every one N00b's, i think he just learned the word... Perhaps time for a Moderator to give him a small tap on his fingers to stop insulting people.
as for weapons u have a ponit there are no brit tanks yet we Brits fought like 99% of the war and the yanks joined later on..Though quite a few of the aging brit tanks where rather poo.There is no sten or bren gun either and both where well used by the brit army..

I s'pose it's what you get when a yank company make a game about a european war :)Medics having weapons at all aint exactly right :) but if they didnt then no one would be a medic, though must admit don't see many medics about..The medics weapon is less powerfull then the main assault weapon though.
What also bugs me is the idea that a sniper only get 15 rounds..Who on earth would go to war with 15 bullets ;)
Game needs a ammo carrier, some one a bit like an engineer who can re supply u in field...as an Halftrack can't get where the sniper/scout can go...

Just a minor point OpTikN3Rv,

DICE is actually a swedish company. Here is their website, EA is only the distributor.

http://www.dice.se/start_ie.jsp?language=en

I do believe that Italian and British tanks are going to be a feature of the expansion pack "Road to Rome". However having recently watched some war doco's about Patton and Montgomery I would rather walk around in my underwear than drive the early british and Italian tanks, at least you are a smaller target and you have just as much chance of the bullets bouncing off you. :lol:

Have fun

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Yep the british Matilda was one hell of a death box.
Tank crews where afraid to go in to war with them as 1 hit and u fried. They where also very high, making a great target..

The Germans on the other hand had some awsome machines.
Was same as the planes to untill the supermarine spitfire came out, but this was at the end of the war..Till then the me109 was bar far the better,ME110's would be nice to i s'pose..and drop the B17's and get the Lancaster bomber in game..

Well german tanks werent as good in the beginning as many people believe. It was more that the allies were simply bad at fighting the german tactics and machines.

It wasnt until Operation Barbarossa that the german flaws became evident and they really had to improve upon their existing machines which created such legendary machines as the Panther, Tiger and the less wellknown but even more effective selfpropelled turretless guns.

British tanks like the Matilda, Churchill etc were infamous for their bad design, underpowered engines etc and allthough the Sherman was far from a good tank at least it was better than the British, French, Canadians etc themselves had manufactured.

Hmm, I always thought the Brits just used Shermans. Oh well... :o

DICE hasn't gone for a perfectly accurate game, its just a quick, fun WWII themed game.

like only 6000 STG's were made (the main german assault gun in the game) but STG's are more fun then running round with a slow bolt action Kar 98.

Battlefield was always supposed to be like that, I remember in a early DICE interview they said making the game fun is the priority, historically accurate stuff comes second.

But if you really want all the historically accurate stuff of World War 2, a mod called Forgotten Hope is being made that will have all the correct weapons/speeds/ armour values etc.

And of course if you want to use realistic and historically accurate infantry weapons you can always play DoD :)

and realistic would mean the Italians in road to rome runnign away at the site of the English so nobody would play them ;)

Very true... DoD is just about as accurate as you can get with the weapons... i have no idea why the makers of battlefield 1942 would fallow their example with the weapons...

Also... I see you guys talking about the British and Russians, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE AMERICANS (yanks to all the Brits, just a joke, I think its funny you guys still call us that, I might as well call you lobster backs...) In BF, the American engineer is using a Springfield!!! That was a weapon used back in WWI... in WWII the Americans used a M1 Grand... Anyone else want to go on about this, their are still more weapons the Americans used in WWII...



See you on the battlefield!

Hmmm I guess thats why they didnt do a 1940 map of Germany's invasion of France :lol:

and i thought all the yank soldiers had a tommy gun and the strap loose on the helmet smoking a fat cigar...

You are correct the germans had pretty small main guns on the majority of their tanks for the first 3 years of the war(including the Czech and French tanks they acquired through conquest). 50vm guns were the norm with directly nixing army requests to upgun their tanks. most people only know or think of the Panthers, Tiger, King Tiger etc.
:agreed: The number sof these vehicles was very small. The germans built about 6200 Panthers whereas we built over 55,000 Shermans. It is a credit to the quality of the tanks they did have but moreso the quality of the german officers and soldiers that fought with them.