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No _Fear February 20th, 2004 01:42 PM

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well resurrection isn't as bad as it's made out to be. It's bad but it's not one that you take out half way throuygh, it's watchable. I've seen it twice and it's kinda old. Sequals are usally worse but that was the big come back of the alien movies, like freddy vs. jason or Halloween H20 or Halloween "Resurrection". lol. But the great thing about sci-fi is you can do whatever you want. So basically they can clone ripley with the alien inside her. It's a movie. But the end is really gross with the human/alien getting sucked out the hole in the window that was dumb. I also think they showed the alien too much in Resurrection. Aside from alien, I think someone should write Predator 3 that has Dutch and Mike in it (I said this before). But some has to make a Predator 3 because the DAMN PRED HANDS MIKE AN OLD GUN WITH 17...uh... SOMETHING ON IT AND SAYS , "WE'LL BE BACK." I think. I can't remember maybe I'll watch it right now to see. (I'm not mad, I'm frustrated)

ice_world February 20th, 2004 03:15 PM

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Sure it's the future but you still can't do something impossible then or now :D so i think alien 4 should not be counted as an alien movie or sth since it does nothing but ruin aliens :D

No _Fear February 20th, 2004 05:06 PM

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But it's a movie. It's as simple as that. You can do whatever you want. But you are right, it f***ed up the alien series. Hey, I just noticed Bill Paxton is in Predator 2 and in Aliens. He plays kind of a jerk off in both movies but thats my opinion.

ScOrPY February 20th, 2004 07:35 PM

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Bill Paxton is great in Aliens. Game over Man! Game over

No _Fear February 20th, 2004 08:18 PM

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the predator says, "take it." then Mike walks out after they leave and the guys says, "WTF happened in there? Dammit, we came so close." the Mike says after that guy leaves, "Don't worry, a**hole. you'll get another chance."

ice_world February 21st, 2004 04:24 AM

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Hudsson is in predator 2? cool what does he do? gotta se pred2 soon, havent in a long time =/

No _Fear February 21st, 2004 07:10 AM

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Bill Paxton plays Jerry Lambert. He's a funny character.

"Talk about B-o and barbaque."

It wouldn't be the same if Predator 3 was made, Kevin Peter Hall couldn't be the predator. (Kevin Peter Hall died of Aids via blood transfusion) You could get another guy but it wouldn't be the same.

Mihail February 21st, 2004 03:45 PM

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yeah hudson was in predator 2, he played a "cool/brave/stupid" cop and gets killed in the subway while trying to protect the people on it. For some reason the predator tracked him down.

ice_world February 21st, 2004 03:49 PM

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why not?
first you dont see the guy
second both predators die don't they? at least the first one did so it would only be strange if the predator was acting exactly as the two ones before

poor guy dying by such an evil diease =/

ScOrPY February 21st, 2004 04:28 PM

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Hudson got his spinal cord taken out, eheh

No _Fear February 21st, 2004 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ice_world
why not?
first you dont see the guy
second both predators die don't they? at least the first one did so it would only be strange if the predator was acting exactly as the two ones before

poor guy dying by such an evil diease =/

I mean he's THE PREDATOR. Theres a picture of him with his arm around arnold and he is one tall guy. There are plenty of tall guys like Yao Ming or whatever his name is, but he knew the drill he knew how to move and act like the Predator. Thats why it wouldn't be the same. To be the predator you have to know what to do as a pred and he was the original. He basically set the rules on the pred race.

Heres the link to that picture.

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet...personid-13697

:hump: <-----Weird smiliy but its funny

ice_world February 22nd, 2004 06:45 AM

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yea you're someone wil probably not be able to act just as him but the size thing wont be much of an prob since you can edit that somehow ;)

No _Fear February 22nd, 2004 03:58 PM

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yeah, your probably right. Let' get on a different subject. Anyone got any ideas?

ScOrPY February 22nd, 2004 08:21 PM

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We talking about guy who was the pred in the movies? Well I reckon he did an awesome job :)

Keirgo March 9th, 2004 05:55 PM

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Hey everyone, new exclusive online trailer at the official site.

avp-movie.com

Very cool !!!

ScOrPY March 9th, 2004 10:53 PM

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Cool, Ill give it a look

Kain Dagain March 10th, 2004 02:21 AM

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Cool, ty. :cheers:

Kain Dagain March 10th, 2004 08:55 AM

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Bah, it's OK.

Like it says "a teaser".

Would like to see all those humans get butchered by the end of the film but I have a gut feeling Hollywood doctrine will prevent that, despite the "Whoever wins...we lose" tag line. :uhm:

Still...looking forward to seeing it, even if it's only for curiosity's sake.

Keirgo March 10th, 2004 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kain Dagain
Like it says "a teaser".

I dont mean the teaser trailer, there is a new "exclusive internet trailer" in the web site, right in the middle in red font.

But your are right, problably some of the humans will survive, cant they make a movie where the aliens win or the preds, and not the humans?

Kain Dagain March 10th, 2004 02:58 PM

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Sorry, that's the one I meant...the exclusive internet trailer.

TBH, I'm not surprised I got confused, I don't see how they could possible call that a trailer...simply not enough of it.

Keirgo March 10th, 2004 04:30 PM

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yeah, but the little they did show, looked pretty cool, especially the alien and the predator face to face.

Kain Dagain March 11th, 2004 05:00 AM

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Yeah, I do admitt it looks like it could be good. It gave the impression it'll be quite tense with plenty of death but I'm still not convinced about the storyline. :uhm:

And remember, a trailer that short, without showing any prolonged scene's, could be just piecing all the 'exciting' bits together. As shocking a marketing tactic as that seems! :uhoh:

I'm not saying it's gonna be bad, just not gonna get too worked up about it incase it does turn out to be dodgy.

Hey, look at it this way, if it's poo I won't be disappointed but if it's great then I'll enjoy it even more! :nodding:

ice_world March 11th, 2004 06:28 AM

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Kain, i agree with you to the fullet ;)

Keirgo March 11th, 2004 06:39 AM

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Yeah, same here.

No _Fear March 14th, 2004 04:12 PM

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story line is gonna suck from the looks of it. The ancient predator gods thing is dumb. I can't think of anymore things to complain about so someone else write something.

bad_religion March 14th, 2004 07:56 PM

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This is my first post and I just thought I would share my opinion about the movie.
Paul Anderson didn't do that bad with RE even though George Romero would have been the better pick for it. The story line in AvP The Movie closes a lot of gaps, like, why the Aliens are on LV-426.
I think it will do well in the box office, especially because of all us die-hard fans and, even if it is short, the internet trailer gets me pumped up.
Can't wait for August 13th! :nodding:

Dr Zoidberg March 15th, 2004 03:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bad_religion
This is my first post and I just thought I would share my opinion about the movie.
Paul Anderson didn't do that bad with RE even though George Romero would have been the better pick for it. The story line in AvP The Movie closes a lot of gaps, like, why the Aliens are on LV-426.
I think it will do well in the box office, especially because of all us die-hard fans and, even if it is short, the internet trailer gets me pumped up.
Can't wait for August 13th! :nodding:


you relize that 1st its a movie they aint going to tall ya the hole story line, 2nd it just came out of pre-production.

ok this is all i got from the story line:

a long time ago in a galexy not so far away (200,00 years ago) the preds wanted to make a test for there teenagers so they thuought why not pit them aginst aliens....so every 200,000 or somthing like that, preds would land drop of 5 teens to test them. so they made humans build pyramids. thats were aliens come, in the preds got some aliens and put them in the pyramid and made humans be hosts for aliens then thy let there teens kill them if they lived they were adults. (modern days) some sientists discover a pyramid under the ice and decide to investigate, witch happens to be the same time in witch the teen preds are brought to the earth to be tested. the rest is yet to come.....

Kain Dagain March 16th, 2004 08:18 AM

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Think I understood all that SKREWB....despite the many typo's and grammatical error's. :p :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by bad_religion
The story line in AvP The Movie closes a lot of gaps, like, why the Aliens are on LV-426.

Are u sure about that? I mean, did u read that or are u just assuming?
Since Aliens is set in the distant future (forgive me for forgetting when) and LV-426 isn't even discovered by humans until the time of Alien (still very much in the future) and the fact that AvP is set in the past/current day - why would they even bother putting LV-426 in? There seems absolutely no point in it and they'd just be trying to ful-fill a tangent in the wrong film.

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Originally Posted by PRESIDENT SKREWB
you relize that 1st its a movie they aint going to tall ya the hole story line, 2nd it just came out of pre-production.

A very valid point, I think. As I mentioned earlier in the thread (along with several others) I don't think they'll monkey around with the story and history too much. I think (at least I hope) they realise that giving the audience too much info on the alien past will rip away half the mystery...which...in the end.... will dissapoint more fans than it'll please.

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Originally Posted by bad_religion
Paul Anderson didn't do that bad with RE even though George Romero would have been the better pick for it

Meh, even though I love the RE series I still thought the film was a bit "bland". It was OK, but there didn't seem to be any real atmosphere created. At least not what I expected. It just felt like an action movie with zombie's and Umbrella thrown in, nothing that made it "feel right". I guess I just fear that he might end up producing the same kind of thing - an action movie with aliens and preds thrown into the mix.
BTW...interesting fact... George Romero was actually the original director for the RE film. There were "disagreements" over artistic license and he left the project. I seem to remember that they wouldn't give him enough freedom to work with it the way he thought it should be so he hit the road. Sad really.
I mean, if u were them, would u really argue with the god of zombie-horror? Nah nah nah, u'd give him space to work and just have a quiet word if he was totally going of on one!! :lol:

What I'm trying to say is.....Is it going to feel like an Aliens/Pred film or is it just going to be an acceptable action movie with them in it?

Dunno about u but there's a whole world of difference as far as I'm concerned. :rolleyes:

Keirgo March 16th, 2004 01:11 PM

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Right, all we can do right now is speculate, and hope for the best, but at the same time dont get your hopes up too much, you could be setting your self up for a disappointment, and yet again, you might not, we'll just have to wait.
like if this hasn't been said before a thousand times. :)

yeah, ill go do something else now. :type:

No _Fear March 16th, 2004 09:28 PM

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Exactally what kain said. Atmosphere is very important. With Terminator 3 I didn't think the atmosphere was right. They screwed with the formula. Now formula is different. The ALIEN series has a formula of how much you see the alien and the amount of violence, etc... But people get disappointed when you f*** up the formula. If predator 3 came out (I keep using this as an example) and humans went to the preds planet, your f***ing with the formula. You gotta stay on earth and fight the pred or preds there. And there has to be a reference to the previous predators. And a little bit of cheesey humor. Anyway I'm tired so I'm gonna stop here.
-Slash

Kain Dagain March 17th, 2004 02:01 AM

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Thanx Deridex, avp2Slasheralien, once again showing me I'm not alone in my thoughts! :nodding:

But yeah, I'm pretty sure we've covered everyone's ideas now - more than once. I find myself pretty much repeating stuff I've written further back in the topic cos someone new has joined the thread. As a result I think I'm gonna make this my last post on this topic - I'm sure people r sick of me repeating myself. :rolleyes:

Besides there's nothing really 'new' being posted and all thats left is to wait till August....;)

Phyrexian March 17th, 2004 05:13 AM

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ok let me to give a opinion on this subject... alien is gret film coz of not-showing alien, aliens bets movie coz not-shownig aliens+action+shownig aliens supremency over humans, alien 3 is good film wathever u said coz aliens stays in shadows most of the time and when they are on open area they are shown brefly... but story is bad (very bad) coz newt and hicks shoudnt die :P... alien:RE is the worst movie (craw, story, graphic :P ) and i want to delete it from history... Predator 1 great... Predator 2 whell not so good :\ coz Pred envoriment isnt city... about the film... i am looking foward to it BUT i think they will screwed it up :\ just i am glad that they say that there will be little graphic...
ok last thing... they say "Whoever wins...we lose", it mean nothing coz it dosent says that aliens OR predator are going to win BUT if they do we are gona lose (meaning there will be no allays in game)

i have spoken :D

Xenomorph March 17th, 2004 09:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kain Dagain
Since Aliens is set in the distant future (forgive me for forgetting when) and LV-426 isn't even discovered by humans until the time of Alien

To be realistic, it would seem that the Company already knew something about the alien on LV-426. There's too many things to chock up to coincidence, like the fact that Ash just happend to be onboard for the mission. It is probably that the Company knew something about the Aliens beforehand (Ridley, I think, even suggested that the Nostomo crew was sent in after an official Company crew failed).

Keirgo March 17th, 2004 10:29 AM

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Ive noticed, that one of the leading characters name is Charles Bishop Weyland, does this guy have something to do with the Weyland-Yutani Corporation, Is he maybe one of the founders of the WY corporation?, and also does he have anything to do with Bishop from aliens?, If your remember the android Bishop was modeled after a real person (which appears at the end of alien3), could he be a distant relative?

Xenomorph March 17th, 2004 03:01 PM

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He is one of the co-founders, along with Mr. Yutani. From what I understand, he's (the character) slowly dying. As for the human Bishop that created the android series, I don't know. Their last names are different, so it wouldn't be a direct decendant. However, it would explain why someone that makes droids would be allowed in on such a top-secret mission as the one to retrieve Ripley and her queen.

Dr Zoidberg March 17th, 2004 06:45 PM

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every one look ate this web site it tells alot of info.

http://avpgalaxy.t35.com/filmavpstoryline.php

Phyrexian March 18th, 2004 01:44 AM

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i think bishop in alien 3 is android coz he took hell of a shot of that 75 man with a pipe... no man in real world coud stand on his foots after thet hit
and i think his ear was striped of when he yelled... so i think he IS an android

Kain Dagain March 18th, 2004 02:28 AM

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OK....maybe not my last post on this thread then.:rolleyes:

@Xenomorph
Yeah, forgive me....been a long time since I watched the original. Just reviewed a few scenes on the DVD. Yeah, they do give the impression that they knew about the planet a priori and set down for a reason (given the scene with Ash explaining his mission - and then goes nuts).
However, this was never directly said and presents the question - how did they know about it then (it was outside the outer-rim I seem to remember)?

Ahhh, I think I see the linking now. If Weyland and Yutani are characters within the new AvP movie then it's possible they could learn of LV-426 at some point (for whatever reason) and then, setting up their now infamous company, they preserved the knowledge within the company history until space travel had evolved enough to transport them there. Perhaps.

That would answer a few questions, like how WY knew to go to LV-426 in the first place and why they would have a mention of LV-426 in the new AvP film - that's if they even do (I think bad_religion was the one to say there is)!

Xenomorph March 22nd, 2004 12:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phyrexian
i think bishop in alien 3 is android coz he took hell of a shot of that 75 man with a pipe... no man in real world coud stand on his foots after thet hit
and i think his ear was striped of when he yelled... so i think he IS an android

Except that the script, the director and the actor all say he was human. Also notice he's bleeding real blood, and sure he took a hit to the head with a lead pipe, but is was 85 who hit him. How strong do you think that pencil-pusher is?

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Originally Posted by Kain Dagain
Ahhh, I think I see the linking now. If Weyland and Yutani are characters within the new AvP movie then it's possible they could learn of LV-426 at some point (for whatever reason) and then, setting up their now infamous company, they preserved the knowledge within the company history until space travel had evolved enough to transport them there. Perhaps.

I was thinking more along the lines that they preserve the knowledge, and then in the future they intercept the 'warning' that the derelect ship was transmitting from LV-426. Either they translate what it said or sent in a team prior to the Nostromo, they discovered that the 'alien' information that had been preserved in their archives coincided with the stuff this derelect was carrying. Thus, the expendable Nostromo crew was sent in to retrieve it for them. If you read the character bios (an easter egg found in the title menu of the Alien DVD found in the Alien Legacy) you'll see that they're all missfits. Dallas was cort-martialled and dishonorably discharged from the military, and Ripley sued WY big-time for not giving her maternity leave, after which they gave her a hefty leave and a comfortable pay increase. Brett went through alcohol treatment and suffered brain damage, and Kain was a former druggy. I'd give more info, but I don't have the whole damn thing memorized. :D

Kain Dagain March 22nd, 2004 05:46 PM

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Man, thats cool as funk.
I'm not very experienced with the Easter Egg idea, I know that they're hidden extras u can find on some DVD's but I don't know anything about unlocking them. :uhm: Have never been bothered finding out before now.

Can u help me out cos I'd like to check those out? ;)

Xenomorph March 23rd, 2004 10:00 AM

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At the title screen where you select "Play", "Language" etc you can see two other doors on the left and right, each showing little slide-shows of scenes from the movie. By selecting one of the two middle options (Scene Selection and Language, I think) and then moving either to the left or right you can select these doors, bringing you to an easter egg. one is the DVD credits, the other is the crew bios. If you're on a computer, you can just select them with your mouse. Also, in the special features area, select that burn whole at the bottom of the screen for another egg.

Keirgo March 25th, 2004 03:50 PM

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Hey everyone, Ive just learned of a new official AVP movie website, and it should be open to the public in about 12 hours. The new site looks really cool, I got to see it earlier because I signed up to the newsletter thing.

Keirgo March 26th, 2004 11:02 AM

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Ok, the new official avp movie site is up for everyone, check it out avp-movie.com


PS: pardon the double post.

ScOrPY March 26th, 2004 08:49 PM

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Cool thanks, looks good :)

Kain Dagain March 27th, 2004 05:58 AM

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Rocking. Nicely done, son!
:cheers:

Nuhrahn March 29th, 2004 07:10 AM

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I maybe too late, can you enter the Avp-movie page ? if it asks a pasword try

Username: Avp
Login: weyland

if any one asks you dont know me.

A look in the picture, it has something to do with Antartida
I personally think it will have something to do with the Predalien; combined forces of both species,. and some OOmie will have to kill it before it spreads to all the globe...

Nuhrahn March 29th, 2004 07:14 AM

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yes... too late.

Kain Dagain March 30th, 2004 04:06 AM

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Judging by some rumours and "things-we-shouldn't-have-seen" reports, it seems probable that there will be a predalien in it but what kind of part this'll play I don't know. As far as it escaping goes....I think they'll be trying to stop any of the xeno's escaping.

I have a feeling the pred/s are gonna take pity on the lame-ass humans and protect them from the xeno's - at least for a while anyway.

exlax April 4th, 2004 03:11 PM

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This movie is long overdue,Im feeling kinda constipated with antisapation,Its not until I see the movie and have the DVD in my hand ,when I will finally get some relief.-:moon: exlax "relief"

Mr. Powell April 6th, 2004 06:18 PM

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Well i for my personal excitement just hope that the Movie will keep the essence of both franchises and that it'll show them in a fashion of not being "so" bad but still being good enough to not ruin both franchises.

Well and a word about the storyline of AvP. Yeah i have to admit that it is certainly not a fantastic one with unpredictable events but please everyone should first of all rethink about the other Alien and Pred movies because their storyline was as fantastatic either but to that time many people around the globe did not had an internet conn (and if a very slow one believe me) and therefore could not talk about movies online and share their thoughts about those movies. You have to keep in mind that people who lived in this time did not bother much about talking so in deep (like you guys do it which i do not want to criticise) and you have to know that the thinking of the whole mankind was a "little bit" different to that of today and they liked to be surprised from good movies therefore those movies even good to such a (well i call it) legendary status (Alien I, Predator I) because about 20 to 30 years in the past people did not take away all the fun of a good movie by taking it into pieces but moreover waited until it was released and then said how they felt about it but today everything is so modern and highly technoological that it is not any prob to get the information you want about thinks (like movies which were to that time a private *Top Secret* ware only meant for certain eyes like the director the casting crew ....)

Got the point!!!!!

All i mean with this is today people just have another mentality and thinking of certain thinks and therefore we did not see so much good bleeding edge shocking movies like in the past where one blockbuster followed the other because just think about how many LEGENDARY Movies came out around the 70's, 80' and 90's and compare them with legends that were found in 2000 up to now. You will certainly see a difference if you go a lil bit in deep with this.

THATS the reason why there are not any really good movies from "our" time that can get legendary movies (with exception of LOTR or maybe Harry Potter) like it was in the past.

The whole mankind just has way to high demands on movies (which is bad from my point of view) on games (which is good from my point of view hehe ;) ) et cetera.

Terminator, Star Trek, Star Wars, Alien, Predator, James Bond et cetera... I could go on with some more legendary movies and some of them are still good some of them are not and why are they not considered any more any good because of teh change of the human thinking and their mentality towards such things may as well our arrogance and thats why we will NEVER EVER have anymore any good Legendary decades of film history writing like in the years mentioned above.

If just half of the Fans (whether Die hard or not) would think like they did 20 -30 years ago they would certainly like (to stick back to the topic) AvP and even its Storyline because it would be a revolution of two franchises going hand in hand but thats just how i followed the thinking/mentality of the humanity for 21 years and analyzed it up to now ;).

Like i said above i will let myself surprise of the movie and NOT going in it with already predefined thoughts about >>how it should BE<<

Well iam not flaming anyone with this so do not take it personal i repeat do NOT take it personal it is just what i noticed when i read this whole thread and saw once again like in any other franchise i was in (trust me i was in many very big franchises hehe) it is quite the same with the thinking and awaiting of movies or sequels -- whatever!

I am maybe not eagerly awaiting the movie AvP but i will certainly go in it (because of curiosity which is in everyone of us ;)) and hope that it keeps the atmosphere (like stated above) and essence of both movies and maybe comes along with some new facts that either will puzzle me more about the two franchises or helping me putting some parts together.

I do not know how it is about you all but i for myself think that this movie either will be a normal action movie with some alien races in it we all know as Predator and Aliens (like stated above in some other posts) or it will be a movie that shows how the whole legend of these two (maybe not so
different) legends began and how these two different species are going along when both are in the same movie.

Well with all of this i do not want to doom what the human civilization have achieved but i mean we should sometimes settle back for awhile and not always going onwards and saying: >Well this movie is going to be a big load of bulls**t because its storyline is absolut c**p< which is really disrespectful in front of the whole franchise especially if the person once idolized the whole franchise because of its 1st movie which was very good to that time it was shot. I mean if you dislike a sequel (or a series -- whatever) of a movie you liked then say your opinion but do not say anything beyond your opinion that is related to that sequel or series ... because this is what brings up gossips and rumors about maybe upcoming titles from this franchise and could even destroy the whole franchise if those things aren't handled carefully...
...

but thats just my opinion

Like i said i gonna see it and will certainly not complain about it until i know it for myself what the movie is about and how it looks (atmosphere/essence) and so forth.













P.S. Sorry for being a "little bit" off - topic but it was past time for saying this.

:)


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